Re:Jak 2 Playable with OpenGOAL
by BaculumMeumEst on Saturday July 01, 2023 @07:16PM
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i wish i could have been a fly on the wall at naughty dog during the development of these games.
or better yet, i wish andy gavin would get so unbelievably bored that he would brain dump every last detail he remembers about designing and implementing goal, or share the source. it’s tragic that knowledge and experience will vanish
Re:Jak 2 Playable with OpenGOAL
by davexunit on Sunday July 02, 2023 @12:13AM
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Yeah he dumped a fair bit about GOOL, the precursor to GOAL for Crash Bandicoot, but not a peep about GOAL. Funny to see this on HN because I was just looking into all of this yesterday. I wish these old games could get a source release so we could just see the magic. PS1/PS2 era Naughty Dog and Insomniac were on another level. The decompiled GOAL code that's available is neat but it clearly is the code after macro expansion and potentially other passes have been done so it's no substitute for the original source.
Re:Jak 2 Playable with OpenGOAL
by causality0 on Saturday July 01, 2023 @10:23PM
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Oh that would be incredible. I've been waiting almost two decades to play Daxter without the stupid-ass design decision to make "up" on the slide pad be slightly to the side of "straight forward" in the game.
Re:Jak 2 Playable with OpenGOAL
by causality0 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:44AM
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You would think, but nobody's done it. Maybe fixing it that way breaks direction functionality somewhere else, like aiming or menu-ing. For the life of me I have never been able to figure out why the devs did that.
Re:Jak 2 Playable with OpenGOAL
by agg23 on Saturday July 01, 2023 @08:09PM
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This is one of my favorite OSS gaming projects going on right now. Three quite good games that used a custom language being taken apart to reverse engineer the language and thus how the game ran.
or better yet, i wish andy gavin would get so unbelievably bored that he would brain dump every last detail he remembers about designing and implementing goal, or share the source. it’s tragic that knowledge and experience will vanish