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Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by mensetmanusman on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:05PM (#36526691)
"And there is good reason to focus on black folks instead of all poor people - black folks are disproportionately poor, and they are because our systems of governance tried to keep them that way."

I have family who recently immigrated from Liberia, and their general sense is that the black slave descendants had their family structures so incredibly destroyed that it makes sense to focus on those descendants instead of all Black people.

In their communities with strong family networks and more fathers in the home, they don't see nearly the same issues as the mostly fatherless slave descendent families.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by RajT88 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @07:08PM (#36528075)
> mostly fatherless slave descendent families

It's my understanding that this one is less about the legacy of slavery per se, and more just a feature of poverty.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by mensetmanusman on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:09PM (#36528686)
Slavery systematically destroyed the family unit of slaves because it was a risk to the power structure. If there was any indication of healthy family structures forming they would split for children and men from women.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by onos on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:06PM (#36529211)
But blacks had high marriage rates until relatively recently.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-pa...

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by RajT88 on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:43AM (#36530960)
That's not quite what that study says...
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by RajT88 on Friday June 30, 2023 @01:45AM (#36530973)
Slavery did that for sure.

But one wouldn't reasonably expect that to continue, no? The critics who say "slavery was a long time ago" have a point on this one. Humans getting married is very normal - if you disrupt that for a generation or two, you'd still expect it to resume. We are many generations past slavery.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by mensetmanusman on Friday June 30, 2023 @10:17AM (#36535355)
The cultural forces behind monogamous family units has weakened quite a bit. It's not super surprising that they can't pick themselves up by their boot straps in short order.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by bitwize on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:35PM (#36528898)
Afro-Caribbean immigrants actually raised the standard of living in the Bronx because they were richer than their white neighbors.