News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by 93po on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:09PM (#36522382)
> Have things been made right by now? I have no idea.

Ask any black person and there's your answer.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by pessimizer on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:25PM (#36522636)
Don't ask black people. Just look at the statistics. They lead reasonable people to believe either that America might have hurt the people they enslaved for 400 years in some way, or that black people are intrinsically inferior to whites. Most white people (and plenty of black people) choose to believe the latter. Even if they do not acknowledge it directly, it's obvious that they're talking around it, especially when "culture" comes up.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by RhodesianHunter on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:43PM (#36522966)
>are intrinsically inferior to whites. Most white people (and plenty of black people) choose to believe the latter.

Your assertion is that most (>50%) of whites in the US believe that blacks are inferior? I find that hard to believe.

It's my impression that these folks are mostly concentrated in certain states and retain power solely due to the fact that land mass = power due to the nature of our government.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by kneebonian on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:48PM (#36523068)
> t's obvious that they're talking around it, especially when "culture" comes up.

I 100% think it is because of culture and has nothing to do with race. I have a friend who is black, he grew up in the Ivory Coast and moved to the US for school, he is hard working, contentious, polite, and all the other things that are associated with success. This is because he was raised to value education, to work hard, to do good for the world, the importance of family, etc.

In comparison I spent several years doing humanitarian work in the inner cities of northern Ohio. There I saw veneration of doing as little as possible, hostility towards education, glorification of violence, and a host of other things that lead to negative outcomes.

I won't pretend that some people aren't racist, but no person can tell me with a straight face that the inner city culture and everything that comes with it isn't part of the reason we have the disparity in our country.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by rd on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:56PM (#36523199)
Why do you think that the inner city culture has evolved to be the way it is? Say, in comparison to, Menlo Park or NYC or Virginia suburbs culture?
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by rayiner on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:26PM (#36523620)
The 20th century political alliance between black politicians and white social liberals. These are not problems that existed in the first half of the 20th century. Ironically, you’re now seeing the same social breakdown in working class white communities, who historically were aligned with white social liberals. Fatherless “barstool conservatives” are the product of that alliance.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by nobody9999 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @02:43PM (#36524873)
>I won't pretend that some people aren't racist, but no person can tell me with a straight face that the inner city culture and everything that comes with it isn't part of the reason we have the disparity in our country.

I'd posit that when the institutions of society disrespects, discriminates against, humiliates and murders members a group with impunity for generations, it's not very surprising when that group is disrespectful of society and its institutions is it?

And while, for the most part (leaving aside voter suppression, gerrymandering and other mechanisms that disadvantage/disenfranchise) the government mostly no longer murders/discriminates with impunity, there's plenty of anti-African American bigotry (I use that term instead of "racism" as there's only one human race, and we're all part of it) still around.

While I don't think it's constructive for those who have been/are being abused/discriminated against for nearly half a millenium to distrust the institutions that have done so, it's certainly understandable.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by Fatnino on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:19PM (#36522540)
Ask justice Thomas
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by 93po on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:25PM (#36522630)
Ask any black person with a net worth that isn't $30 million
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by rayiner on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:22PM (#36523544)
The decisive majority of black people agree with justice Thomas that colleges shouldn’t use race as a factor for admissions: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-amer...
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by SV_BubbleTime on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:35PM (#36523752)
Seems like you are moving the goal post?

Are you saying rich black people aren’t as black as poor black people?

Why would you punish someone for their success despite the disadvantage you insist must be accounted for?

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by 93po on Friday June 30, 2023 @05:27PM (#36542555)
i cannot roll my eyes any harder than i did here.

my point is that looking at the outliers of any context aren't going to be the ones that give you an accurate picture of reality.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by ryan93 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @02:00PM (#36524217)
Thomas was anti affirmative action going back 50 years to when he graduated from yale law. he grew up very poor.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by gmarx on Thursday June 29, 2023 @02:46PM (#36524933)
Where did you get 30 million? One online source estimates 1 million net worth and has some reasoning to back it up. My guess is that if he has owned a house in the DC area since he has been on the supreme court, he would have a lot of home equity too but probably not up to 30 million
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by VirusNewbie on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:31PM (#36522727)
John Wood Jr. would be a good person to listen to for getting a very interesting answer to this very complex questions.