Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by ceejayoz on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:26AM
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The titanium endcaps weren't connected with epoxy, but bolts.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by daxuak on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:43AM
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I suppose the article meant cap itself was a carbon fiber/epoxy build, implying nothing about the connection?
On a separate note, although the submarine failed catastrophically, that doesn't mean every decision it took was wrong. I wonder if the bolts actually make sense under high water pressure.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by SkyMarshal on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:39AM
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They use some sort of glue to seal the titanium end caps to the CF hull, then the Titanium hemispheres are bolted to the end caps. Here’s their own YT vid showing the construction process: https://youtu.be/WK99kBS1AfE
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by SirSourdough on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:35AM
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I believe it’s both really. My understanding is the end caps are bolted to a titanium flange, not the carbon fibre hull directly. The titanium flange the caps are bolted to is epoxied to the hull.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by nickpinkston on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:49AM
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Yea, you generally try to avoid drilling holes or even casting threaded bosses into carbon or other composites, especially this extreme pressure rig, because it really reduces the strength versus an strong adhesive that evenly applies pressure without breaking/disrupting the composite material.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by bambax on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:24PM
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Not really. There were titanium rings at each end of the cylinder, fixed with glue, and then the caps were bolted onto said rings.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by SkyMarshal on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:32AM
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The main difference was the Titan was larger, designed to fit 5 people, while cyclops 2 could only fit two or three. The main enabling factor for that was Titan’s carbon fiber hull. Cyclops 2 was standard all-steeel construction.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by mpenick on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:21AM
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I also wonder what changed between the Cyclops 2 and the Titan.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by nimbleplum40 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:13AM
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Nothing. Cyclops 2 is the Titan.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by pvaldes on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:05PM
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I assume that just the name. Cyclops was a monster that lost his one eye in battle. The submarine had one window and the name suggests that window being damaged at some point. Titan suggests a more positive and strong image without suggesting the bad parts.
In any case the submarine couldn't avoid the cyclops destiny and cyclopsioned entirely.
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by jacquesm on Friday June 30, 2023 @04:45AM
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Titan is simply short for Titanic...
Re:Submarine expert tried to dissuade OceanGate CEO, from ta...
by SkyMarshal on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:52AM
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I believe Cyclops 2 is Titan, just renamed. Cyclops 1 is a smaller steel-hulled submersible.
I also wonder what changed between the Cyclops 2 and the Titan.