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Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by peyton on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:55AM (#36519745)
RTX 6000 Ada alone is $7000. Don’t see how you’re “completely blowing the Mac Pro out of the water” at that price point.
Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by mort96 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:46AM (#36520324)
The 4090, which seems like it's blowing the M2 Ultra out of the water, is $1600 though.
Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by peyton on Thursday June 29, 2023 @09:56AM (#36520430)
Great for Cyberpunk 2077, but not great if you need more than 24 GiB.
Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by greedo on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:17AM (#36520668)
Considering the RTX 6000 ADA is like $8k, you could add three 4090s for half the cost.
Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by mort96 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:08AM (#36521422)
You know what, that's actually fair. If your workload needs tons of GPU memory, nothing probably beats the Mac Pro's up to 192GB.

Except, I guess, for the Mac Studio.

Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by lostmsu on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:21AM (#36521616)
Is there a workload that actually needs more than 24GB of VRAM that can't be offloaded to regular RAM.

I honestly don't have any examples out of my head. LLM inference is compute bound AFAIK.

Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by crasm on Thursday June 29, 2023 @02:05PM (#36524324)
LLM inference is GPU bound and VRAM bound. Given quantization however, 2x3090 or 4090 (48GB) is enough VRAM to load 65B quantized llama derivatives (30-40GB). With exllama you can get maybe 20-30 tok/s with dual 4090s on ~1200W. With an M2 Ultra maybe 10 tok/s on ~178W.

(I don't have these devices but have been researching LLM inference performance in the interest of buying a machine for them.)

Advantage goes to M2 Ultra if you ever might need more than 48GB VRAM. I think it's unlikely nvidia is going to release a significantly higher VRAM consumer card anytime soon, since that's what their A100s are for.

Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by mort96 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:56PM (#36527318)
If only the big ML stuff didn't all use CUDA. Guessing that world won't transition to Metal compute any time soon.
Re:The Mac Pro’s biggest problem is the MacBook by blackoil on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:33PM (#36523720)
Are there any such non AI use cases? For AI anyway its all Nvidia.