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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by Alupis on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:16PM (#36511973)
> Just as much reason to believe it would be lower than higher.

That seems like some wild calculus. Fewer people willing to accept lower pay and be stuck at a specific company = higher pay. There's no other way to make the math work, particularly for extreme-demand positions like SE.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by slt2021 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:26PM (#36512100)
without H1Bs silicon valley would not exist in its current form (it would be more like in 80s-90s)
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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by Alupis on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:47PM (#36512361)
That's a lot like saying agriculture wouldn't exist in it's current form without importing cheap labor that can be (and is) abused. It's still wrong.

The H1B game, as it's played today, is a relatively modern invention, and was not used to build startups into mega corps anyway.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by slt2021 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:12PM (#36513361)
American agriculture would not exist without seasonal workers from Mexico, farmers love their H-2B visa for seasonal workers (oh, the irony)

Especially Americans working at John Deere, Dow Chemical and all the food processing

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by mannerheim on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:05PM (#36513289)
> I don't claim that H1Bs have the effect of increasing pay, but rather that their effect on pay is non-obvious, and any assertion that they do depress wages should be backed up by evidence.
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