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Re:The Secretive Surveillance Wizards Helping ICE Wiretap Fa... by mikece on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:00AM (#36507453)
How much does using Graphene OS instead of an iPhone or stock Android help insulate from this pervasive monitoring?
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Re:The Secretive Surveillance Wizards Helping ICE Wiretap Fa... by asynchronous on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:25AM (#36507868)
Depends who your ISP is. The NSA has shown past ability and willingness to just wiretap all packets they care about coming through the ISP layer.
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Re:The Secretive Surveillance Wizards Helping ICE Wiretap Fa... by FollowingTheDao on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:16AM (#36507717)
Graphene OS? 100% if you do not use any Google apps.
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Re:The Secretive Surveillance Wizards Helping ICE Wiretap Fa... by deelowe on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:49PM (#36510798)
I don't get this. How does one believe Android is compromised and yet, the hardware is not.

I'm not aware of Google intentionally placing backdoors in Android. However, I am very much aware of hardware makers compromising shipping products, be it the ASIC itself or FW being loaded by ODMs/system integrators.

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Re:The Secretive Surveillance Wizards Helping ICE Wiretap Fa... by leon_theremin on Friday June 30, 2023 @07:03AM (#36532859)
There will be no computing freedom until the silicon trojans embedded in all US designed CPUs are removed. If you want freedom, you will have to ensure that no unseen radiation is enabling remote control of your devices. Ask me anything about BadBIOS and hardware trojans.
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