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Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by WalterBright on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:16AM (#36502221)
I've done a lot of remote work over the decades. It starts out well, because you know your coworkers well. But, over time, those relationships fade, and people come and go at work. You lose the connection with them, and they with you.

It's hardly all roses.

Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by soligern on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:19AM (#36502237)
It’s all roses. I see my coworkers in person once a year at the Christmas party. Other than that I’ve only every worked with them online since I started working here 2.5 years ago. It’s all roses.
Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by _rm on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @01:18AM (#36502588)
Classic HN, any pitch for a shade of grey gets met with either "no it's white!", followed by "what? everyone knows it's always black!".
Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by verve_rat on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:54AM (#36505129)
People are complex and different. If something is white for one person, and black for another, when you put them next to each other you get... black and white.

Reducing people's different experiences to a homogeneous grey mush is overly reductive.

Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by smaudet on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:31AM (#36502315)
This is what is meant by the "big corps haven't cracked it".

More progressive corps embraced online socializing earlier, and honestly that's all I need. To be sure something is lost socially by not being in person, but the workplace is not social-drinks club, or if it is that's where your productivity went.

You still build connections with people you only meet online, older folk might have more trouble with that, which makes sense why they might struggle to manage if they heavily depend on "making friends" to do their job.

Training and onboarding can be issues, but barring a straight up lack of talent generally focused efforts are probably better than just assuming the new employee will "make connections" and learn via osmosis.

Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by raverbashing on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:46AM (#36503567)
This. Keeping a connection takes some effort

And yes this might mean going to the office once in a while or to a company event etc

Not an unsurmountable problem but it's not negligible neither (as much as it is slowly growing)

Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by flkiwi on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:55AM (#36502483)
>You lose the connection with them, and they with you.

I work in an organization with 10s of thousands of workers across the United States. I will never, in the best circumstances, see more than a handful of them in person, other than in-person team meetings, which have themselves become increasingly rare as the team is more geographically diverse than ever and travel budgets are slashed due to ready electronic collaboration tools. So ... what connection? I mean, I don't really care about having a personal connection with these folks anyway. I like them and enjoy having a positive professional relationship with them, but they're my coworkers and we have amazing tools to build those relationships. If some of them become friends, that's fine, but it's not anywhere close to a prerequisite for me to be successful and fulfilled at work.

My entire career I've worked successfully with people I never met who live on the other side of the planet. The whole discussion about the necessity of in-person collaboration over the last 3 years has struck me as one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. I haven't had a conference call in 3 years. I cannot emphasize how revolutionary and positive that change is. I see my coworkers' faces more now than I ever did in the past thanks to Zoom and Teams. It's nothing short of miraculous how much better things are now.

In return for giving up a pointless commute to use a different Internet connection and for spending less time pandering to bosses who want to promote buddies who look like them instead of competent leaders, I can spend more time with people and things I actually care about and more time doing work I love. Every single bit of this new arrangement is roses.

Re:Damaging Results of Mandated Return to Office – It's Wors... by Tade0 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:00AM (#36502845)
I've been in my current project for over two years now, never met the team in person, but we have a good connection - chiefly because we insert some chit-chat into the meetings.