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Re:Is ORM still an anti-pattern? by markkanof on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @05:00PM (#36498593)
Why are a data access layer and an ORM mutually exclusive? An ORM is just an abstraction over your database. You might find use in it as a tool to access your database but contain the use of the ORM to within your data access layer.
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Re:Is ORM still an anti-pattern? by mvdtnz on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @06:04PM (#36499298)
I never said they are mutually exclusive. I said you don't need the ORM.
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Re:Is ORM still an anti-pattern? by danem on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @08:12PM (#36500534)
Mind sharing an example of a large(ish) app that doesn't make use of an ORM? Last time this topic came up, I went looking for one (admittedly not too hard) and I came up empty handed.
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