Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by AlphaSite on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:15AM
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Does the token identify every resource you have access to? I think is for multi tenant applications with fine grained access control.
Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by paulddraper on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:34AM
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"Oh, you just [insert complex solution here]"
You need one capability token per principal and resource and perhaps access right.
Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by akajla on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:35AM
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You can encode capabilities/permissions as scopes in distributed tokens (e.g. OAuth) but this can start to break down if you have very granular, fine-grained permissions (e.g. user:1 has 'editor' access to 1000s of documents/objects). This is similar to the problem that Carta ran into while building out their permissions[1].
In addition, yes - validating permissions on each request makes it so that you can revoke privilege(s) with immediate effect without needing a token to be invalidated.
[1] https://medium.com/building-carta/authz-cartas-highly-scalab...
Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by smarx007 on Monday June 26, 2023 @05:23AM
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I think it's best to refer to the Zanzibar paper: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/atc19-pang.pdf
Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by zcw100 on Monday June 26, 2023 @06:53AM
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... or the annotated one from the Authzed folks https://authzed.com/zanzibar
Re:Understanding Google Zanzibar and Why it Shines at Buildi...
by smarx007 on Monday June 26, 2023 @08:18AM
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Wow, I am also impressed by the tech behind! https://github.com/authzed/zanzibar-annotated
I'd expect you to be able to give short-lived capability tokens to clients that each machine can verify down the stack without making new rpcs. This would avoid the fan-out of all the internal services.
Is it just to prevent abuse?