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Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by somewhereoutth on Sunday June 25, 2023 @09:47PM (#36474760)
Plenty (in fact the majority) of Jews murdered in the Holocaust were not German.

They were murdered because they were Jews. In your examples the men were murdered for being on the opposing side, and so a possible threat (unlike the women and children).

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by shapenamer on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:45PM (#36475537)
But what about the Jews that were German?
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by throwaway749381 on Monday June 26, 2023 @04:52AM (#36477333)
This comment presumes a modern understanding of citizenship. Jews living in Germany were seen as Jews, not Germans (just as Jews in Russia were not seen as Russians). This humorous quote by Einstein is based on this notion: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/93643-if-my-theory-of-relat...
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by shapenamer on Monday June 26, 2023 @04:54PM (#36485721)
> implying that the 1940's weren't modern times or that the concept of citizenship has radically changed since then.

nope

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by throwaway749381 on Monday June 26, 2023 @07:40PM (#36487303)
I admit I used the word "citizenship" in an inaccurate manner. Please allow me to clarify and correct myself.

In terms of technical, legal citizenship, that (presumably) became available to Jews in Germany upon their emancipation in 1871. This opportunity was revoked a mere 64 years later in 1935 with the introduction of the Nuremberg Laws. Citizenship in this sense is a modern invention.

What I meant above was citizenship in the sense of belonging to a particular group. A person could be a German in a legal or social sense, and I meant it in a social sense. The Jews were never seen as being "authentically" German. They were seen as a foreign people living on German land. This certainly contributed to the ease at which their legal status was stripped.

By the way, this attitude wasn't particular to Germany, but all over Europe, from Russia to France.