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Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by FeistySkink on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:06PM (#36473103)
There's a 5:1 male:female suicide rate in my home country. This has been going on for decades. "Temporarily" saying "men suck" doesn't help.
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by camjohnson26 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:26PM (#36473281)
Men also commit 98% of homicides.
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by the_jesus_villa on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:37PM (#36473379)
This is a perilous line of thinking! Let's try it with race - "Black homicide rates are seven to eight times those of whites".

And yet, here in Latin America, there are posters in every major city decrying the crisis of "femicidio" (murder of women). Not because they are disproportionately victims (quite the opposite), but because that's what's interesting to the American NGOs that decide what political issues are trendy and important.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by znpy on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:30PM (#36473329)
Do you also have stats about the victims too?
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by BlargMcLarg on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:30PM (#36473323)
..and what percentage of men commit homicides? And who are the primary victims of homicides?
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by svnt on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:49PM (#36473462)
I am not excusing homicides, but can you imagine that perhaps being emotionally illiterate and constantly put down might cause someone to be more likely to become violent?

When they cannot defend themselves in all of the social discussion, bargaining, and gossip that is used for control of their lives, the feeling of helplessness can become overwhelming.

And if a confrontation becomes violent, probabilistically the bigger, stronger one will most likely win. In a male-female dynamic where death is the outcome, the origin of the conflict is rarely considered.

In many countries girls and women still need education for reading and written communication. I think in every country boys and men should receive education for emotional self-understanding and communication.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by theodric on Sunday June 25, 2023 @07:17PM (#36473657)
Men are just really good at cides in general
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by klik99 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @08:11PM (#36474069)
I really hate to be put in the position of looking like I'm minimizing this, because I made the same point in my post that suicide rates are an obvious indicator that there is something wrong here. But just want to point out that this is not a new thing, and I don't think it was caused by people saying "men suck". https://www.statista.com/statistics/187478/death-rate-from-s...

But I'm with you in the frustration that this isn't talked about.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by Aerroon on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:05AM (#36475628)
To add: a 3-5x ratio of male to female suicides exists in almost every other country too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r...
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by dumpsterdiver on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:00AM (#36476220)
No, I don't think you've minimized the issue at all. In fact, you've highlighted the fact that men have always struggled with mental health, and if anything we need more support, not people telling us that we should die.