I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn

Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by cvalka on Sunday June 25, 2023 @04:12PM (#36472123)

If you want to criminalize some act or behavior, the burden of proof is on you. What makes you feel entitled to use the State to penalize me for exercising my speech? She does not like virtual deepfake pornography. Tough luck. Donald Trump does not like the media calling him a loser. Tough luck.

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kthejoker2 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @05:09PM (#36472622)

Hiding behind legalism when people are talking about ethics and normative values is cowardly.

Speech that directly causes harm to others is not just about legality.

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kcplate on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:44PM (#36473427)

Harm from speech is completely subjective and that is why you need a generalized legal way to measure it as harm.

Normative behavior and ethics are subjective as well. They are also subjected to the whims of the mob of the moment.

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kthejoker2 on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:04AM (#36475620)

More useless philosophizing, answer the post directly.

If a specific someone (like the author) says I do not want a deepfake porn of me, and someone else says I don't care, I made one ..

Was harm done? If no, why not?

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kcplate on Monday June 26, 2023 @01:17AM (#36475988)

Ok, easy enough.

No…if there is no objective legal definition of harm to confirm the subjective understanding of harm in your example.

Yes…if there is an objective legal definition of harm to confirm the subjective understanding of harm in your example.

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kthejoker2 on Monday June 26, 2023 @11:47AM (#36481314)

So you've just outsourced your personal moral code to the law? How ... enlightened you are.

Letting yourself be an empty vessel for the state to fill as they seem fit sounds sacrificial.

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Re:I Shouldn’t Have to Accept Being in Deepfake Porn by kcplate on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:47PM (#36482257)

Not at all, but I am realistic enough to know that we cannot have over 8 billion separate definitions of the word “harm” that are actionable. There needs to be a standard that is agreed upon and the law is the source of that.

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