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A comment on Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's premier iconoclast (1962).

Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by AlbertCory on Sunday June 25, 2023 @03:39PM (#36471837)
> Why I sometimes walk off the stand is because when it's somebody else's turn to solo, I ain't going to just stand up there and be detracting from him. What am I going to stand up there for? I ain't no model, and I don't sing or dance, and I damn sure ain't no Uncle Tom just to be up there grinning. Sometimes I go over by the piano or the drums and listen to what they're doing. But if I don't want to do that, I go in the wings and listen to the whole band until it's the next turn for my horn.

I wrote about this exact thing in here last week:

https://albertcory50.substack.com/p/the-art-of-leadership-le...

But he was Miles. He did it his way. No disrespect at all from me on that. He probably launched as many big stars as Blakey, if not more.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by ddq on Sunday June 25, 2023 @05:49PM (#36472970)
I was enjoying this article but when you got to the importance of character, asking ChatGPT to define it seemed - at least to me - a bit of a cop-out. Would have liked more personal perspective there.
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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by Tade0 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:22PM (#36473251)
Increasingly, when I ask someone for their opinion, they just tell me they've put that question into ChatGPT and this is what it said.

Well, okay, but if I wanted to hear that I would have asked ChatGPT directly, no?

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by ghostpepper on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:18PM (#36474969)
As a counterpoint, isn't it implied that the person has read what ChatGPT wrote and by forwarding it, agrees that it's a roughly similar phrasing of their feelings on the issue? One would hope so, anyway.
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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by AlbertCory on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:19PM (#36475365)
Indeed that's what I thought, but I think it's fair to say, "I don't want to read ChatGPT's answers."

More precisely, I did get lazy and think, "well, I don't know what he meant, exactly, but he'd probably pick out one or two of these points, at least. ChatGPT tends to include everything, including the kitchen sink."

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by Tade0 on Monday June 26, 2023 @08:03AM (#36478610)
Plus, to me, "I don't know" is also an answer - I use it to gauge how niche a topic might actually be. LLMs do that at all.
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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by coldtea on Monday June 26, 2023 @04:37AM (#36477223)
Why not cut out the middleman then?

People who "agree with what ChatGPT wrote" are redundant in a discussion.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by ghostpepper on Monday June 26, 2023 @07:55PM (#36487421)
If you're an expert in X and I'm not, you can easily google "intro to X" and skim the first handful of pages and send me the best one. This is the same idea IMHO.

Telling me that ChatGPT's answer is not horribly wrong could be a very useful data point.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by AlbertCory on Sunday June 25, 2023 @07:48PM (#36473895)
OK, I'll accept that, thanks.

I spent a lot of time on the rest of it. For this part, I didn't think I had anything particular to say about "character" that wouldn't take me days to compose, and might not be what Blakey meant by it anyway.

But yeah, this device has worn out its welcome.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by johnea on Sunday June 25, 2023 @08:32PM (#36474205)
Why is the top ranking comments in this thread not even about the original article?

This is so typical in the HN comments.

This is a comment thread about 1962 interview of Miles Davis, not Albert Cory...

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by AlbertCory on Sunday June 25, 2023 @08:47PM (#36474296)
Because I wrote about something Miles said in that interview.
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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by johnea on Sunday June 25, 2023 @09:36PM (#36474687)
This is still not about your writing and shouldn't be at the top of the comments.

And its definetely NOT about programming, OR leadership.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by coldtea on Monday June 26, 2023 @04:40AM (#36477246)
You don't get to decide what should be at the top of the comments.

>And its definetely NOT about programming, OR leadership

Never had to be. Perhaps you took the name "Hacker News" too literally?

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by Stratoscope on Sunday June 25, 2023 @09:44PM (#36474749)
Albert's comment wasn't about himself, but about an article he wrote that I found quite relevant to the Miles Davis article.

He compares Miles' onstage behavior when another musician is soloing with Art Blakey's very different approach.

It's worth reading them both, and I am glad they were both called to my attention.

To answer your question about why it's at the top of the comment thread, I'm sure you already know the answer: multiple people like myself found it interesting and upvoted it.

Complaining about that won't change anything.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by yuuuuuuuu on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:21AM (#36476366)
> Why is the top ranking comments in this thread not even about the original article?

In short: Because it got the most upvotes.

Sounds trivial but there is a deeper point to it. "Top comment" isn't about who gave the most praise or the harshest crisicism or the best summary or the most controversial take on the topic. It's about what the collective HN hivemind found was moving the conversation forward in the most interesting way. That's what's getting upvoted. If that happens to have mentioned another article, well, so be it.

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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by coldtea on Monday June 26, 2023 @04:38AM (#36477234)
Because discussions thread in various directions. It's not a school exam.
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Re:Miles Davis: candid conversation with the jazz world's pr... by helsinkiandrew on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:18AM (#36476336)
It does seem a little lazy and jarring to quote from ChatGPT, but technically is much the same as if he had added a named quote directly: "Merriam-Webster dictionary defines character as.." or "Albert Camus once said that character is..."
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