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Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by h2odragon on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:36AM (#36469314)
I feel like automobile quality peaked around 1995-2005; probably on the earlier side of that range. We used to have little roller skate cars that got 50MPG, and expected to run for 200k+ miles. We have two small trucks from that era, 250k on the Dodge and approaching 400k on the Toyota.

We're weird people who treat our cars as pets tho.

Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by dmbche on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:45AM (#36469421)
I've started watching Regular Car Reviews on youtube recently - he waxes poetic about those cars, it's just beautiful to hear. Really was a nice time.
Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by katbyte on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:45AM (#36469434)
Newer Toyotas still last forever and are not full of gimmicky tech, well at least some of them.

I expect my tacoma to just keep going and going

Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by brandonmenc on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:53AM (#36469550)
I also have a Toyota from that era - 2000 4Runner with 200k miles. The fanciest things in it are power windows and locks.

At least once a month I get approached asking if I want to sell it. Sometimes it's a note taped to the windshield, other times the potential buyer will walk right up to me.

A couple weeks ago, a group of car enthusiasts driving their custom classic hot rods asked if I wanted to sell. Obviously car experts and mechanics. One guy in the group said he also had a 4Runner from the same era with 300k miles and marveled that they last forever.

I'll never sell it. There's something very freeing about driving a completely untethered car that lacks all the modern bells and whistles.

Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by cvccvroomvroom on Sunday June 25, 2023 @01:11PM (#36470432)
Keep it. It will last 500k-1M miles. Simplicity and reliability are king. The new ones have all plastic bumpers and grills that degrade in 10 years. The absolute worst are the new Lexuses.
Re:Car quality is suffering as automakers shift focus to tec... by Brian_K_White on Sunday June 25, 2023 @01:42PM (#36470785)
3rd gen 4runner ftw. '97 myself. Manual. I love it but I live in NJ so it's rusting out. So I've been thinking about a new one, but I dread trying to find a new vehicle that doesn't essentially have all the same things I think are terrible about a Tesla. I test drove a 2020 4runner a few years ago and hated it. By now all cars made by anyone seem to be software defined, with software you have no control over.