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Re:The bigger-is-better approach to AI is running out of road by goatlover on Sunday June 25, 2023 @12:54AM (#36465237)
Or the Many Worlds Interpretation is the correct understanding of quantum mechanics. The MWI people will say that indeterminism comes from the Copenhagen idea of there being a random collapse. But since measuring devices and human brains are also quantum systems, there's no reason to propose a collapse. Decoherence would be the reason we only see one result.
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Re:The bigger-is-better approach to AI is running out of road by Legend2440 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @02:09AM (#36465490)
Maybe, but there's no data to support one interpretation over another.

I believe that all quantum interpretations are incomplete and therefore wrong. Quantum mechanics is an abstraction over a deeper level of physics we can't measure yet.

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Re:The bigger-is-better approach to AI is running out of road by trashtester on Sunday June 25, 2023 @03:08AM (#36465711)
Actually, there is a reason to support one interpretation over another. Specifically that it's really hard to define what an "observer" is in the Copenhagen interpretation.

The MW/Everett interpretation is what we have left if we remove the things we cannot define.

There are also reasons to believe other interpretations. For instance, if you're religious, that could pull you towards the Bohr interpretation, since it may make it easier to assume that observation could be linked to an immortal soul.

In any case, it's not natural to assume that below QM there exists a reality that is more similar to our instinctual world model than QM is. If anything, anything below it is likely to be even more abstract and hard to comprehend.

Or it could be that the principles of QM applies all the way down, just as we've seen for the pieces of the SM that we solved after QM was first introduced (strong force, electroweak force).

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Re:The bigger-is-better approach to AI is running out of road by layer8 on Sunday June 25, 2023 @05:19AM (#36466322)
Objective-collapse theories can actually be experimentally tested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-collapse_theory#Test...
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