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Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by robotresearcher on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:22PM (#36442051)
The Tesla Model 3 is surprisingly barebones. The display/infotainment has unnecessary extras, but the car has wheels, seats, a stereo, and AC, sitting on a battery.

Pair your phone with BT and you'll never touch the infotainment again.

It's not cheap, but it's not overcomplicated in daily use if you ignore the infotainment.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by bumby on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:25PM (#36442070)
Genuinely curious: do they have crank windows? Manual seat adjustment?
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by electrondood on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:52PM (#36442254)
No.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by photonbeam on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:13AM (#36442713)
I guess you could aftermarket install that if you like
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by bumby on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:45AM (#36447507)
I think that gets to the original point that even cars described as "barebones" have a lot of electronics in them.
Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by brucethemoose2 on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:37AM (#36442830)
IIRC the model 3 is lighter than other EVs.

Perhaps that is why. EVs kinda follow the "tyrrany of the rocket equation" because so much weight is their batteries (aka their rocket fuel). Taking a few pounds of features off also saves some battery that is no longer needed.

Re:Quality of new vehicles in US declining on more tech use by CorrectHorseBat on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:35AM (#36443194)
Unless you want to turn on your wipers or the fog lights. It's better than before witg the latest update but the experience still sucks, especially the fog lights. I don't understand how that got past safety checks.