Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by vminvsky on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:55PM
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It's actually pretty easy to create a bespoke ChatGPT detector!
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Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by the_other on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:21PM
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But will it give reliable results?
Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by vminvsky on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:25PM
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according to the paper they get 98% accuracy. another recent paper came out saying it's always possible to discriminate between real and synthetic text [1].
i think the core problem is with the generalist classifiers (gptzero, openai detector, etc). ex. openai's classifier has an accuracy of around 25% on it's own text. however, when you train a bespoke classifier (like the authors did), you can get really good results.
Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by iinnPP on Thursday June 22, 2023 @07:17PM
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The moment a detector is taken seriously is the moment it will be trivially beaten by another AI designed to beat the detector.
Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by vminvsky on Friday June 23, 2023 @02:35AM
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i would recommend u read the paper. the contribution isnt a detector thats meant to be taken seriously; but a detector that works in a very specific task. they then use this to estimate use of LLMs on MTurk
Re:People paid to train AI are outsourcing their work to AI
by lisasays on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:07AM
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Is it now?
Adversarial training isn't infinitely scalable either, has its limitations also.
Also - the moment that companies start training models to resist detectors, they expose themselves to regulation. Won't stop dark AI models running on some website somewhere, but it can be very effectively applied to companies running at Google or OpenAI scale.