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Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:50PM (#36437792)
i understand what you are basing your statement on (a cleaner version would be asphyxiation by breathing an inert gas) but you are very wrong. as a matter of fact people with an impaired amygdala who can't experience fear will panic when forced to breathe co2. also your breathing will get very shallow and cause co2 to accumulate triggering those very receptors you argue will stay silent.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.12350

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by slau on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:20PM (#36438302)
You are arguing for the exact same thing as the person you’re replying to—while attempting to disagree with them. They said that provided you can keep CO2 levels down, lack of oxygen will cause drowsiness and cause you to pass out. This is true.

You then argued that breathing increased levels of CO2 will trigger survival instincts. This is also true, and exactly what grandparent said.

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:16PM (#36439121)
> while attempting to disagree with them

or you're just projecting your own character on someone you don't know?

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by flangola7 on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:57AM (#36443320)
That's not what they did at all
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by uppiiii765 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:12PM (#36438183)
But kids and people die regularly due to having a barbeque thing lit in a close space and the coals consume the oxygen and make CO2.

Wouldn't that wake them up?

I also assumed that too much CO2 fast is the key not the super slow version of what those people in the sub have experienced

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:22PM (#36438329)
what you mean is CO - not CO2
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by meepmorp on Thursday June 22, 2023 @10:53PM (#36442260)
What the does that have to do with what OP said?

OP, correctly, pointed out that we don't detect the lack of O2, we detect a buildup of CO2 (because it causes respiratory acidosis). If the CO2 is removed, there's nothing to cause the panic response, the situation itself notwithstanding.

It's still nea that it works with an impaired amygdala, though.

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Friday June 23, 2023 @02:58AM (#36443705)
first of all - the co2 isn't removed ...
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by WithinReason on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:10AM (#36443768)
It is, they had CO2 scrubbers
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:41AM (#36443966)
but not endlessly. those scrubbers are saturated after a while. that's the whole point. otherwise suffocation wouldn't be a threat to begin with.

why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?

Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by WithinReason on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:53AM (#36444030)
The CO2 scrubbers were in masks which could be replaced and there was enough for 96 hours
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by 2-718-281-828 on Friday June 23, 2023 @04:00AM (#36444076)
how is that even relevant to the question here? i'm out, have a good day
Re:Titan Submersible Suffered Catastrophic Failure: Debris F... by meepmorp on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:57AM (#36444790)
It's called a hypothetical.