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Re: by ElMocambo_x4 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:02AM (#36429619)
It's funny to see the left up in arms, talking about "civil liberties" when their militias are arrested, while they have no problem (and would even call the police) when similar groups from the right rather than the left, also gather in woods together, switch their phones off, use Signal, etc, and learn how to box, climb ropes, make shelters, etc.
Re: by antoniojtorres on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:28AM (#36429758)
What are you talking about? When has “the left” been in favor of eroding the access to, or quality of private and secure communication in a comparable context?
Re: by ElMocambo_x4 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @07:07AM (#36430359)
When it calls for their equivalent groups on the right ("Generation Identitaire") to be banned ? When it attacks hotels where Zemmour is having a book-signing event ?
Re: by junon on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:07AM (#36429970)
I'm pretty center compared to many of my left friends, but I've anecdotally never heard nor seen anyone say "they shouldn't have privacy because they're far right" or anything close to that sentiment.
Re: by orwin on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:17AM (#36430023)
For context: dissolution of far-right groups in France under center-left government, or generally before Macron were rare since the 90s. The reasons :

- trying to kill the president (under a right-wing president, when right-wing didn't actually meant authoritarian), - actually killing someone, - terrorism (found bombs and shit).

Dissolution of right wing groups under macron:

- massacring gays around the pride parade (OK, that one is deserved), - fighting, - training, - pretending/performative art (it was quite funny actually, I don't think it was on purpose but we laughed a lot)

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Now, the reality about the 'left up in arms' having no problem with authoritarian government and calling the police:

A left-wing media was dissolved in Nantes for giving informations about when the next protestation will happen (basically). Also they explained how to transform a fire extinguisher into a paint bomb, which isn't nice, but I mean, they weren't militia at all.

'funny to see the left up in arms'...

Left-wing people in France called out macron authoritarian drift way before regular conservatives, way before that

I think the facts are a bit against you. Your idea seems pleasant at first glance, but fail to meet reality. I thought it was a new trend, but I read a bit recently about political theory, and one fascinating things was that some political ideologies are declined from example and experience, from material conditions, and from that is drafted an ideal. Other are declined from an idea, then try to explain why the reality doesn't work like that (it's often because of the francs-maçons or the jew, but sometimes it's internal traitors).

I will let the reader guess which ideology is which.

Re: by ElMocambo_x4 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @07:09AM (#36430373)
Do you have sources for the "right-wing groups" dissoluted for "masscring gays around the pride parade" ? Thanks.

I know of Generation Identitaire banned after it protested the construction of a Mosque, i didn't hear the lefties defend right to protest at that time. :)

Re: by orwin on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:24PM (#36452339)
12 june 2022 near Bordeaux, i have a friend that got cut by a bottle thrown by those retards. I think you can find multiples articles about it.

Generation Identitaire was banned the 3rd of march 2021 using "loi du 10 janvier 1936". Let's see what the "lefties" said about this law in march 2021[0]:

"Dissoudre pour mieux régner" => "Dissolve to reign better" in english

"Une procédure à abolir ?" => "A procedure to abolish?"

« la question se pose de savoir s’il est pertinent de maintenir le principe même d’une dissolution administrative » => “the question arises as to whether it is relevant to maintain the very principle of an administrative dissolution”

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Now, do you actually understand? We do not need this law, is is unjust and barely useful, and too flexible. It shouldn't be used, at all.

[0]: https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2021/03/PINSOLLE/62867