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Re: by ohgodplsno on Thursday June 22, 2023 @02:59AM (#36428844)
https://www.dalloz-actualite.fr/interview/vanessa-codaccioni...

90% of self defense cases end in the tribunal, meaning that the judges saw it as not-self-defense. The biggest factor in all this is proportionality: if you killed someone in self defense but were not yourself having your life threatened, you will go to court.

Re: by zirgs on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:38AM (#36429490)
Any physical assault is potentially life threatening. One unlucky fall on the pavement and that's it - you can easily die or become permanently disabled. Yet another reason why it's better to deescalate and/or run away if possible.
Re: by ohgodplsno on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:43AM (#36429509)
Yep, and this is the logic that is followed by judges: self defense is pretty much only valid if you had no other option. Run away. Always run away.
Re: by AmericanChopper on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:53AM (#36429563)
> self defense is pretty much only valid if you had no other option.

Running away is a good idea for many reasons, but very few US states or foreign jurisdictions have a duty to retreat as you’re describing here.

Re: by ohgodplsno on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:23AM (#36430060)
Good thing this was in the context of France, then.
Re: by AmericanChopper on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:45AM (#36430206)
And France is among the overwhelming majority of legal jurisdictions around the world that do not have a duty to retreat.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...