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Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by endisneigh on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @10:55AM (#36419286)
I've still yet to see a groundbreaking use case for any of these LLMs. Have you seen any?
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by herval on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:16AM (#36419597)
Github Copilot is shockingly good, I'm much more productive with it.

I also frequently use GPT to review emails or co-write content, with pretty great results. Takes me minutes instead of hours.

What sort of "groundbreaking" did you expect?

Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by endisneigh on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:26AM (#36419759)
Copilot is good, but code completion has been a thing since the 90s, and even earlier. Fundamentally it's iterative.

I mean enabling use cases that simply were not possible before. For example LLMs themselves are groundbreaking, but I haven't seen anything enabled by them that's also groundbreaking.

Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by Our_Benefactors on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:52AM (#36420141)
Copilot is so much more than code completion. Have you used it?
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by herval on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @12:18PM (#36420491)
any technology is iterative. There's no such thing as "completely new".
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by tredre3 on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @01:21PM (#36421494)
Copilot autocompletes comments too, which I've never seen in 30 years of experience. So that's a use case that was simply not possible before.

eg I just type // above a block of code and the little guy will read my mind with a full comment.

Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by rvz on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @01:50PM (#36421913)
Exactly. It's more evolutionary rather than revolutionary.
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by digitalsushi on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:05AM (#36419415)
I'm sure it can be done but combining 'groundbreaking' with 'use case' is difficult for me to achieve. "What's the use case you have for something new?" "This is something that hasn't been done before, here's how we use it", etc.
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by microjim on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:00AM (#36419343)
Can you please define groundbreaking?
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by eimrine on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @11:13AM (#36419551)
Creates a new field of science and provides a solid base for further researches.
Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by itairall on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @12:52PM (#36421053)
What is most interesting about LLMs to me is the vastly different experiences people are having with them.

Personally, I can't understand how someone who has spent time with chatGPT4 can say that as a blanket statement.

On the other hand, if you are viewing things from the perspective of creating a mass market product, I would agree. I am not sure there is going to be a product beyond the scale of the chat interface to the models. Everything will be very niche and customized if the chat interface is not the best use case. How that plays out is what I think will be groundbreaking.

Re:Ask HN: OpenAI does have a moat. Why do people think it d... by jstarfish on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @05:26PM (#36424840)
Fiction writing.

It'll eventually be useful in games when the model sizes come down, but the novelty of being able to talk every NPC into abandoning their scripted goals and starting a family with you and living together in marital bliss until the HDOTU will wear off quickly.

The scary part will be when NPCs are pre-emptively directed by the developer/hypervisor to say and do anything to keep you engaged in every way possible, adapting to your behavior like a meth-dispensing slot machine that broadcasts pornography while you sleep.

For the sake of both fun and bandwidth, we'll have to move back to scripted dialogue and behavior.