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Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @03:54PM (#36409580)
> Tesla pulled a fast one on the morons at GM and Ford

Consumers prefer NACS to CCS. And Electrify America failed, spectacularly, to deliver a working product. (As someone put it bluntly, NACS exists. CCS does not. You bet on the horse, not the unicorn.)

The auto industry is standardising around NACS because it will eventually force the standard into the open. That, in turn, enables antitrust questions about the Tesla/Supercharger tie-up. (In the meantime, everyone avoids the wastefulness of a meaningless standards battle.)

Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by bombcar on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:03PM (#36410569)
We should have some brand of car install both plugs (as I understand the smarts are in the car, the plug is basically a dumb electrical connection) and then after a year or two see which people are using.
Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by Rebelgecko on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:22PM (#36412682)
My understanding is that installing both is basically 2x the complexity. What's on the other side of the plug is fairly different between NACS and CCS
Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by bombcar on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @09:36PM (#36413287)
Is that “double the price of the car” or “an extra 100/200” or somewhere in between.

Because I could see people taking the option.

Re:Rivian Joins Forces with Tesla, Embracing Their Charging ... by simondotau on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @11:12PM (#36413930)
There are many cars on the global market with two AC charging sockets but last time I checked, there are none with two DC charging sockets. Multiple DC charging sockets would be a severe safety risk without a beefy isolating mechanism, which adds weight and a non-trivial point of failure.