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Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by lumb63 on Monday June 19, 2023 @03:51PM (#36395756)
Devil’s advocate here. Nobody else should have the option to prefer Apple devices as they are today because… you’d prefer them differently?

If Apple stays the same as it is today, there is nobody making you buy an Apple device.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to be able to sideload apps, and I think more competition in the App Store space would be beneficial for consumers. But a lot of the “freedom” type advocates act as if someone held a gun to their head and forced them to use an Apple device for the remainder of their life, and now they can’t sideload apps. If that’s an important feature to someone, there’s a platform that allows that.

Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by ixwt on Monday June 19, 2023 @04:05PM (#36395862)
You make a valid devil's advocate position!

Personally, its about pushing back on the ever increasing tide of not owning your own device, and using it as you see fit.

I just can't understand why so many are against a feature that they don't have to use.

Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by matheusmoreira on Monday June 19, 2023 @04:09PM (#36395892)
I don't get it either. People come to Hacker News to defend the antithesis of everything hacking stands for. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by martimarkov on Monday June 19, 2023 @06:48PM (#36397404)
Not really. I have been on HN for some time. I like the debates that happen here. This is probably one of the only topics I feel very strongly about.

Again nobody has managed to challenge my point that if you want side loading there is another platform you can use. Why does every platform needs to be so open? You wanna tell me there are NO benefits from a closed platform?

I can still side load using my Dev Account so I want a specific app - I’ll build it and have it. Anyone can side load with a dev account so the entire point as I keep coming back is because of the revenue to developers not freedoms.

Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by matheusmoreira on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:46PM (#36398746)
> if you want side loading there is another platform you can use

I don't want another platform. I like Apple's hardware. I think it's really well made and would like to purchase it instead of Samsung phones.

That's all the justification necessary.

> You wanna tell me there are NO benefits from a closed platform?

I wanna tell you that none of these benefits matter if they come at the cost of computer freedom.

Re:Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competiti... by bloody-crow on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:07PM (#36398891)
Every feature, even the one you don't use, comes with a price. There's no such thing as free feature in software.

Adding sideloading reduces security of a device even if you personally never touch it. There'll be more attack vectors, scams etc that would only be possible with sideloading.