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Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by theironhammer on Monday June 19, 2023 @01:20AM (#36387565)
Look into the history of Ukraine over last 20 years. Especially how the Ukrainian speaking part of Ukraine has treated the Russian speaking Ukrainians. It's not what you've been told to believe. Even the Guardian was running stories about how the Russian speaking Ukrainians were being treated back in 2014. And how the neo-Nazis exert control.
Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by ajuc on Monday June 19, 2023 @01:28AM (#36387612)
> Especially how the Ukrainian speaking part of Ukraine has treated the Russian speaking Ukrainians

I live in Poland. I was in Ukraine many times. I work with Russian- and Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians. My cousin married an Ukrainian. There's millions of them here. Literally nobody except for Russian propagandists ever complained about abuse of Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

Kyiv (the capital) was mostly Russian-speaking till very recently. Most of Ukrainian politicians up to this point were Russian speaking. All 3 western-leaning presidents of Ukraine - Poroshenko, Yushchenko, Zelenski - come from eastern Ukraine and were speaking Russian as their first language.

Most Ukrainians speak both languages and switch depending on the context.

It changed not because of some imagined persecution, but because Ukrainians started to associate Russian language with invaders and genociders.

As for neo-nazis exerting control - neonazis tried to run for parliament after 2014. They got 0.7% of votes.

There's more neonazis in one russian division than that.

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by _kbh_ on Monday June 19, 2023 @07:37AM (#36389836)
> Look into the history of Ukraine over last 20 years. Especially how the Ukrainian speaking part of Ukraine has treated the Russian speaking Ukrainians. It's not what you've been told to believe. Even the Guardian was running stories about how the Russian speaking Ukrainians were being treated back in 2014. And how the neo-Nazis exert control.

None of what has happened in Ukraine in the past 20 years justifies the invasion.

None of it justifies the Russians rape and torture of civilians.

None of it justifies the litany of war crimes including castrating PoWs and committing genocide.

So why are you trying so hard to justify it?.