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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by throwaway2037 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @09:04PM (#36386138)
All this sounds great from the perspective of retail shrink wrap software. Today, the major use cases for Qt on the desktop are in-house corporate software. And, no one cares about "uncanny valley". Only HN and online nerds care about that stuff. Average, non-technical, corporate users care about functions, not form. Hell, they are happy with a VBA app! Also, lots of in-car and in-seat (aeroplane) entertainment systems are built in Qt.

    If you want a "Premium" native look and feel
Who is doing this in 2023? No one outside my examples above.
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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by whstl on Monday June 19, 2023 @02:22AM (#36387892)
There's a reason in-house corporate software started becoming web based 15-or-so years ago: web is cheaper, easier to hire for, faster to develop and deploy, doesn't require installation or updates, easier to troubleshoot, doesn't need special pipes for communicating with the server (yeah I remember the days of DCOM, CORBA, WCF and other weird protocols instead of HTTP).

It is things like Qt that only HN and online nerds care about.

Don't get me wrong: I really like well made native apps and I think they're great. But Qt isn't as great as software made with native toolkits directly.

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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by throwaway2037 on Monday June 19, 2023 @08:44PM (#36398317)
No, long term, web apps are more expensive because the front end needs to be completely re-written ever few years. A desktop app written in Qt can be kept running for a decade with very little work. (This assumes no Qt library upgrades, which for in-house apps, are most unnecessary.)

The primary advantage of web apps is "zero install", which is a major point of friction at large corps.

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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by whstl on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:32AM (#36416770)
“because the front end needs to be completely re-written ever few years”

Citation needed. Currently working in a jQuery+Coffeescript app that still works like a charm.

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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by jpc0 on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @06:34AM (#36416790)
> ...needs to be completely re-written ever few years.

No it doesn't, the HTML spec hasn't changed, whereas QT has. The issue is how the webapps were built in the first place. You don't need Nextjs and all it's friends to post a form to a backend once an hour but somehow that is becoming the standard approach...

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Re:Imaginary Problems Are the Root of Bad Software by whstl on Monday June 19, 2023 @06:41AM (#36389486)
> Who is doing this in 2023? No one outside my examples above.

For macOS check apps made by Apple (Logic, Final Cut), Panic, Rogue Amoeba, or apps like Pixelmator, Affinity, Pixelmator, TablePlus, Tower, Dash... there's more.

There's even open source ones like IINA providing a premium look+feel.

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