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Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by in3d on Saturday June 17, 2023 @03:52PM (#36373903)
FYI DEI rarely includes ageism.
Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by ForHackernews on Saturday June 17, 2023 @03:56PM (#36373953)
Most students in the UC system are youngish. Ageism is just a relevant example because it's one that many straight, white male developers will eventually face first-hand.

I've observed peers who were historically dismissive of "special treatment" (aka antidiscrimination measures) for women and members of underrepresented racial groups develop an case of late-onset empathy once they find themselves on the other side of that "not a good culture-fit" line.

Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by NoMoreNicksLeft on Saturday June 17, 2023 @05:28PM (#36374817)
That's an interesting observation.

Here's a thought... after growing up in a culture that tells them that no one is special and that everyone's just out on their own to fend for themselves, they're bombarded with this firm an unrelenting message that some do deserve special treatment and that it's only fair. But they're not included.

And then, when something unfair happens to them, and they hint that maybe they deserve this special treatment too, they're told to "fuck off, go eat shit and die patriarchy!".

I wonder why they're so keen to watch Fox News in retirement. Some mysteries we'll never figure out, I suppose.

Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by ClumsyPilot on Sunday June 18, 2023 @11:53AM (#36381351)
> Ageism is just a relevant example because it's one that many straight, white male developers will eventually face first-hand.

Another way to experience discrimination is to cycle on the roads for a few months, especially anywhere motorists aren’t used to it.

I am not talking about people who endanger your life accidentally, You get heckled, mocked, threatened, etc.

Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by zeroonetwothree on Sunday June 18, 2023 @10:43AM (#36380722)
Even “rarely” is generous. I’ve never seen it.
Re:Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2018) by okeuro49 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @11:37AM (#36381205)
Nor class.

Ironically, at least in the UK, the majority of those who work in DEI are middle and upper class university graduates.