i do this. big heavy ide with project and debugger going full blast. I might want to just pop open a log quickly and cba to drag it into the IDE, np++ context menu done. more often tho, reading logs on a non-main dev machine/vm/test/field

Your life is pain...

I don't know if you know the feeling: it's like watching inexperienced chess players play -- you want to scream when you see them making dumb moves, but then the opponent also makes a dumb move, which makes it more funny than sad.

When I look over the shoulder of people who work like you describe your workflow, just like with chess, I feel this kind of mix of embarrassment and frustration -- it was so easy to do it right, yet you decided to do something silly instead.

This is not helpful.

Why not suggest a more appropriate workflow without the chastising or denigration? C'mon, you can be supportive.

shrug, im drastically faster than all my work mates not that thats a good benchmark, im not bothered and have stuff that works quite well for me. what i outlined above is worst case scenario with some huge IDEs like VS or a huge idea project. some projects i do entirely in vim. others i have to use 2 remote debuggers at once with a VM in the mix. im doubtful their advice would apply

Yeah, it's kind of how it happens. Your skills suck just a tiny bit less than of those around you, and you come to unwarranted conclusion that you are doing good.

Unfortunately, our industry has few small pockets where you can still find competent programmers every now and then, but you wouldn't see them using IDEA or VS Code. And then there's an ocean of... well, not even mediocrity, it's just hands down awful. Most programmers throughout their career will never see a competent programmer, and if they stay around will be promoted into management where they will lose the very modest skill they had. And the cycle will continue.

I am not sure what kinda beef you have with people being able to handle using multiple editors at once but it sure is a doozy

I don't want to support people who don't want to support themselves. Also, the commenter wasn't asking for support. They proudly believe that what they do is a legitimately good way to use their computer.

I've seen way too many people like that, and have an idea how that kind of belief is formed. I don't want to help those people. I want them gone.

> I don't want to help those people. I want them gone.

I'm sorry you have this attitude towards people. I wish you the best.

You might like lnav on the far end, especially for colorization.

Separate from what?

If you are a programmer, you are already using an editor. Who besides programmers needs to see hex dump of a file?

Sysadmins? Programmers who don't have their editor open and just need to quickly look at the contents of a file?

There aren't sysadmins today who aren't programmers.

> Programmers who don't have their editor open

Well... these aren't programmers. Maybe "aspiring programmers", as in someone who still have to learn how to use their computer. It's not anyone who would be considered a competent user.

What are you talking about? I use cat and less all the time when I'm working in the console. No need to switch tools when I want to take a quick look at the file.

Because people sometimes write parsers for binary file formats? In my case, it is indeed for a programming task, but not for debugging running/compiled code.

A ”raw bytes” view can be useful in many situations.

Because nothing is more awesome than wanting to quickly view a file and vscode decides it needs to not only update itself but the remote helper app as well, so your file takes 30 seconds to load.