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Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by FrustratedMonky on Friday June 16, 2023 @08:37AM (#36355558)
Guess Problem is that a lot of managers also don't know, and have same understanding as your Grandma. I've seen plenty of companies take a very highly paid engineer and have them install printer drivers on peoples PC's.
Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by reedf1 on Friday June 16, 2023 @09:33AM (#36356322)
I was getting paid £200k/yr as a Software Engineer for a company with an unresponsive offshore IT help desk. I would often spend a few hours (!!) a day helping various stakeholders with their desktops/printers/email. This was an insanely ineffective but absolutely necessary use of my time (I was managing a small development team), sadly my IT efforts were clearly more appreciated than development.

Hard to convince management that a dedicated onsite IT would be required - especially when they think it is your job already.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by flushit on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:54AM (#36358761)
I suppose there is a difference between companies that are tech to the core (where everybody in the management chain up to CEO is actually a sw eng) or a company where software engineering / programming is just a dept. somewhere on the side.

Gotta appreciate if you're working in the former. Drawback is you can't BS your way through issues. Everybody above me in the chain (which is like 4 people) could write a quicksort blindly. If anybody tries any BS they don't have their job much longer.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by flushit on Friday June 16, 2023 @11:51AM (#36358701)
> Guess Problem is that a lot of managers also don't know, and have same understanding as your Grandma.

Well, nobody forces you to work for a company with managers like that. I personally wouldn't.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by FrustratedMonky on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:19PM (#36364735)
That is a worthless recommendation.

That's kind of like saying, even slaves have a choice. Death being the option available to all.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by flushit on Sunday June 18, 2023 @07:25AM (#36379180)
There are enough companies out there without such managers.

Drawing a comparison to slavery is quite shocking, tbh.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit (2022) by FrustratedMonky on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @09:18AM (#36403522)
The term 'wage slave' is commonly used. It is not always a humorous take on the situation. If you live or have skills where you have a lot of options. Then that is good for you, not the default for everyone.