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Re:Vision Pro by fomine3 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:00PM (#36349449)
> Most importantly, people actually used their devices all the time, they just wanted them to be better. There was a reason they called them "Crackberries" - Blackberry fans were on them 24/7, and they got tons of utility from them.

There are some enthusiastic people who use HMD (like Quest Pro) over 10 hours everyday for virtual display. Though currently the number of people is far less than Blackberry era.

Re:Vision Pro by Miraste on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:05PM (#36349492)
There is also a difference in kind. "Crackberry" types were businesspeople, executives, politicians. People high in social hierarchies with a lot of sway. The people who use VR to that degree are, and I mean this as affectionately as possible, very unusual.

That's probably a big reason Apple has ignored the current VR market segment.

Re:Vision Pro by fomine3 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:31PM (#36349747)
Difficulty of demonstrate is also a pain. It's easy to demonstrate to friends or mom that BB is useful, but demonstrate any HMD usage/functionality is one of the most hardest thing ever. What most people can do best is just send WWDC video.
Re:Vision Pro by NikolaNovak on Friday June 16, 2023 @07:55AM (#36355037)
There's truth to this.my best friend was bugging me to try his Quest 2 for probably a year before I relented and tried it on and understood.
Re:Vision Pro by FormerBandmate on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:47PM (#36349902)
Crackberries were for people who always needed to be connected. There was no TikTok for BlackBerry, people barely used them for talking to their friends. The modern iPhone barely has anything in common with them
Re:Vision Pro by alexwasserman on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:08PM (#36350644)
> people barely used them for talking to their friends

In the UK Blackberry and BBM remained very popular for a long time.

That Blackberry was additively used for email (even in a business setting) implies a lot of use for friends. The crackberry addicts were emailing their friends, who were likely also work colleagues, fellow execs, etc.

Re:Vision Pro by allenu on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:17PM (#36350703)
There's a viral quality to emails from BlackBerry devices as well. Didn't they add "Sent from my BlackBerry" to the end of emails by default? And then Apple famously added "Sent from my iPhone" by default to emails from iPhones.
Re:Vision Pro by alexwasserman on Friday June 16, 2023 @12:00AM (#36351038)
Yes, that "Sent from my Blackberry" was the default, AFAIK. A very obvious signal that you're a smart important person with a Blackberry.

That's when the "Please excuse the typos, sent from my mobile device" became popular too.

Re:Vision Pro by NikolaNovak on Friday June 16, 2023 @07:57AM (#36355067)
I Canada at least and I think in usa too there was a period where blackberries were way cooler among teenagers than iPhone are today. In age where each sms used to cost money, blackberry messenger was uber cool.
Re:Vision Pro by polishdude20 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:01PM (#36350578)
Yeah but today's view of businessmen and executives is less charitable.