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Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by harrelchris on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:07PM (#36343566)
At what cost? Decreased velocity of money? Loss of how many jobs? If Sam Altman and a few others are allowed to establish a moat around AI as he is trying to do, what will happen?
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by PartiallyTyped on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:38PM (#36344003)
They will regulate everyone out, make new competitors impossible, and reap the benefits.

I think some German guy figured out what would happen of people couldn’t afford to live.

Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by moglito on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:30PM (#36343901)
Life is not zero sum.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by PeterStuer on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:03PM (#36344311)
The laws of thermodynamics beg to differ.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by CyberDildonics on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:44PM (#36344860)
The laws of thermodynamics have nothing to do with life at all, this is a nonsense response that adds nothing.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by mydriasis on Thursday June 15, 2023 @04:56PM (#36346422)
Thanks for keeping us on the straight-and-narrow, Cyber Dildonics.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by bookofjoe on Thursday June 15, 2023 @12:53PM (#36343351)
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by b0x68 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:50PM (#36344159)
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by rcme on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:59PM (#36344273)
These are all basically the same arguments made about globalization. Yes, AI is likely to increase the value of the economic pie. Those gains are unlikely to be evenly distributed, however. There will be a few big winners and many, many small losers.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by naveen99 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @02:45PM (#36344869)
its the opposite. globalization helps everyone (the many) except the few who get arbitraged.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by skitout on Thursday June 15, 2023 @03:06PM (#36345090)
On what is based your view ?

My feeling, without sources at hand to confirm it:

In few Asian countries, we can see it did helped many.

In most developing countries, the picture is less clear.

In developed countries seems to have benefits to the richer top 20%, and have neutral or negative effect on other...

There are a lot of negative externalities associated with globalisation (eg pollution, weaken state...)

And it is absolutely not clear how would have done people in different scenario...

Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by musicale on Thursday June 15, 2023 @06:42PM (#36347766)
> In developed countries seems to have benefits to the richer top 20%, and have neutral or negative effect on other

Developed countries seem to have outsourced or automated many formerly middle-class manufacturing and office jobs.

New jobs tend to be high-end tech jobs or low-end service jobs. (And even some of the are being automated.)

An obvious benefit from globalization and automation appears to be providing more affordable consumer goods.

Unfortunately (and for various reasons) housing, higher education, and health care have become drastically more expensive (in the US at least.)

Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by rcme on Thursday June 15, 2023 @03:26PM (#36345297)
Yup, that's the exact argument I'm talking about.
Re:Generative A.I. Can Add $4.4T in Value to Global Economy,... by kylewatson on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:25PM (#36349131)
How do you add value to an economy? Someone is paying for something.

If I had a magic box that made widgets out of thin air, I'd still have to sell them to people to realize any value. If I sold $4.4T of them then yeah, I'd make $4.4T, but I'd be taking that money from, you guess it, the Global Economy.

Unless my magic box generated actual money, I don't understand how you add $4.4T value to the global economy. With enough inflation I suppose you can skim from the overall inflation rate. But otherwise I'm not understanding what they're talking about.

Maybe they're saying the total net value of the global economy is static, but the amount that goes to generative AI will be $4.4T. I guess that's what they're saying.