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Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by inconceivable on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:06AM (#36341558)
the trick to wrenching on your own stuff (including home maintenance) is to take your time and never rush anything. read the directions and watch the youtube video 10x before you start. just assume it's going to take hours and hours. go to the auto parts store or amazon as many times as is needed to get it done right. get the right tools, even the cheap version will save you tons of aggravation and frustration.

a lot of younger folks are impatient (past me included) and get suboptimal results for a lot of time spent, which puts them off of doing work themselves. the irony is of course that younger folks have all the time and none of the money. they are also the ones complaining the most about how expensive home/auto/whatever services are.

this will also teach you the limits of what you actually can and can't do, so that when you do spend money on a pro it's money well spent. they also prefer to do the more complex jobs (less customer overhead, setup and cleanup time eating into margins) so it's win-win. as someone above said, they're far more efficient at the actual work but you can't make a lift go faster or shortcut any consumables used.

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by Fradow on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:43AM (#36342130)
Also have a plan B if things go south. And yes, that means not working on your daily (or someone else) if you don't have a backup transportation solution.

Because just like we have bugs in production, things break when you wrench on them, even if you do everything by the book (note: first-hand experience there).

But those are just setbacks, and no big deal if you are prepared for them.

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by ambicapter on Thursday June 15, 2023 @11:50AM (#36342239)
So basically if you want to work on your vehicle, you need a second vehicle. That was basically the reason I could never get behind doing work on my own car.
Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by Fradow on Thursday June 15, 2023 @12:22PM (#36342843)
"Backup transportation solution", it can be public transit, or even a bicycle if it's enough to get you where you need to, but yes that's my opinion.

Even something as simple as an oil change can go wrong. Drain plug broke and you need a new one? Or you forgot to put a gasket and it leaks and now all your oil is on the floor? Well, now you need a trip to the parts store, or order it and wait until parts get there.

In my case, it was a routine maintenance operation: changing brake fluid. I used a power bleeder, and at a third of the pressure specified on the manual, the reservoir ruptured. So now I needed a new reservoir. Parts store didn't have it, and it took 2 weeks to get there.

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by Swizec on Thursday June 15, 2023 @06:39PM (#36347726)
> at a third of the pressure specified on the manual, the reservoir ruptured

Hey, better this happen while you're wrenching than when you're zooming through the twisties and need to stop

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by Fradow on Friday June 16, 2023 @07:15AM (#36354665)
Indeed. In this particular situation it cannot happen since that reservoir is normally not under pressure, but I've had a not properly connected line (my fault) disconnecting while performing an unrelated operation.

Luckily that one was just a quick trip to the parts store to get the right fluid and reconnecting the line properly this time!

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by inconceivable on Thursday June 15, 2023 @12:39PM (#36343131)
instead of having a problem for every solution, try having a solution for every problem.
Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by BluePen7 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:30PM (#36343891)
Unless you have a bus route that goes straight to the auto parts store, yeah that's the ideal.

Often I'd invite a friend over while I did the work, keeps me company and that way they can be the backup vehicle (and I'd return the favour).

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by smileysteve on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:44PM (#36349865)
This is a great example; said friend also convinces you to stay hydrated, double check your safety, and not just apply more force in the wrong situations.
Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by michaelt on Thursday June 15, 2023 @05:46PM (#36347017)
> So basically if you want to work on your vehicle, you need a second vehicle.

This is the other reason a lot of people will do their own motorbike maintenance - for a lot of people, the motorbike is the second vehicle.

Re:What Motorcycles Teach About Maintenance by smileysteve on Thursday June 15, 2023 @09:42PM (#36349845)
I once took 3 Ubers to 3 different auto parts stores; I've biked to a stores. I've borrowed neighbor's cars.

It's also rare to order too many parts or tools. Rental tools are very useful, but many times as a car ages, you may need to order other parts.

Though I don't get this complaint; because there is often lead time at a mechanic's for the parts too; you still need a backup transportation plan for that situation. (And it's even more likely to effect you during a 9-5 if you your wrenching on weekends or weeknights)