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Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by Lramseyer on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @08:20PM (#36334790)
I have a tinfoil hat theory that all of this environmental and safety regulation was amplified heavily by lobbying and/or propaganda efforts from the coal companies. On one hand, you can make the argument that nuclear fuel was the new silent invisible killer on the block (as opposed to coal mining and emissions which were known, but accepted since it had been around for decades) But when I read stuff like this, it seems as if regulation was heavily disproportionately applied to nuclear energy even despite it being a new and unfamiliar danger. Or maybe the coal industry simply was more successful at curbing regulation. After all, it was was a more mature industry financially and politically.

My theory might be speculative and totally off the mark. But when you compare deaths per TWh of energy produced, coal is responsible for almost 3 orders of magnitude more deaths than nuclear. So maybe the real question is "how has coal power stayed so cheap?" or "if we tried to make coal power as safe as nuclear, what would it cost?"

Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by wolfram74 on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @08:29PM (#36334853)
I mean, with the history[0] of petro companies funding anti nuclear groups, it's not a very out there conspiracy theory.

[0]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2016/07/13/are-f...

Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by fsflover on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:20AM (#36339427)
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by thrawa8387336 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @04:24AM (#36337766)
Greenpeace was started with the standard oil money...
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by cal85 on Thursday June 15, 2023 @04:41AM (#36337856)
Not sure if you’re being entirely serious but is there any truth in that? Just curious.
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by mkoubaa on Thursday June 15, 2023 @06:21AM (#36338486)
"Save the trees" used to mean "use more plastic"
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by Elyra on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:35PM (#36343953)
I couldn't find anything for Greenpeace, but I did find Friends of the Earth (which like Greenpeace, also split from Sierra Club), was split off "because of the [Sierra Club's] positive approach to nuclear energy. The founding donation of $500,000 (in 2019 USD) was provided by Robert Orville Anderson, the owner of Atlantic Richfield oil company." [1, 2, 3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_the_Earth

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/03/28...

[3] https://atomicinsights.com/smoking-gun-robert-anderson/

Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by koheripbal on Thursday June 15, 2023 @07:47AM (#36339095)
And then supported by Russia
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by fsflover on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:38AM (#36339612)
Links?
Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by IAmNotAFix on Thursday June 15, 2023 @05:27AM (#36338133)
Working with QA analysts has shown me that quality people are totally autonomous in adding disproportionate hurdles to the way of production without needing the help of any external lobbying.

It's very simple: the only way to 100% prevent an incident is the absence of production at all. If your incentive is to avoid incidents at all cost, you are incentivized to prevent production entirely.

Re:Why does nuclear power plant construction cost so much? by koheripbal on Thursday June 15, 2023 @07:48AM (#36339099)
Russian influence operations as well.

It is well documented