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Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by paulddraper on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @12:03AM (#36321289)
I find myself doing that.

Reddit

GitHub

Stackoverflow

Even Hacker News

Quality goes way way up depending on topic.

I kinda wish Google would apply some more personalized ML to my searches

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by hedora on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @12:20AM (#36321418)
I use duck duck go, and haven’t had to resort to that.

Anyway, I can’t think of any searches where appending stuff like that wouldn’t be universally beneficial (or detrimental), so I don’t see the personalization angle.

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by Osiris on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @12:28AM (#36321463)
They just use Bing user the hood and the results are awful. I use some browsers that default to Bing/DuckDuckGo and every time I can’t find something I switch to Google and find the answer right away.

Bing seems to surface a lot more unrelated or spam my websites at the top of the results.

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by 8organicbits on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @05:06AM (#36323321)
What searches are you seeing that with? I default to DDG and when I can't find something I'll try Google, but usually struggle there too. Google also has ads (for people without ad block...) so "unrelated spam at the top" is baked in.
Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by reportgunner on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @06:10AM (#36323713)
Sounds like a layer 8 issue, I have been using ddg as my main search engine and I always find what I need on the first page.

Every time I stumble in to google I am appalled at how bad the UX is.

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by carlmr on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @08:59AM (#36325218)
I'd suggest a different explanation.

Think about what OP said here for a second:

>every time I can’t find something I switch to Google and find the answer right away

If you assume both Google and Bing to be similarly good but not the same, then you would expect this to happen.

Say there are two sets of websites, the ones that Bing finds (B+) and some that it doesn't (B-).

The same would hold for Google, there would be G+ and G-.

Now if you search on Bing first, and find what you need, you stop. This is a result in B+.

If you don't find it, your result is in B-. Then you search in Google and maybe get a G+ result, since they have different sets of websites they find.

You might also not find it (G-) but in the end both search engines aren't that bad, so this rarely happens.

Now you might find the same result if you start on Google instead, and aren't lucky in the first go, and then try Bing.

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by poidos on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @09:24AM (#36325554)
> layer 8

TIL[0]:

> Layer 8 is a term used to refer to user or political layer on top of the 7-layer OSI model of computer networking.

[0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_8

Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by Eisenstein on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @09:51AM (#36325936)
Same as PEBKAC.
Re:Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit black... by mdekkers on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @05:28AM (#36323459)
Have a look at kagi