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Re:TV is broken by DanBC on Friday February 24, 2012 @07:32PM (#3631728)
Legally I don't need a licence but I buy one anyway.
Re:TV is broken by DanI-S on Friday February 24, 2012 @10:49PM (#3632098)
I'm British, but I live in California, and I'm eagerly awaiting the day that I can pay monthly for BBC iPlayer (their streaming service). There are sketchy proxy services available, but it feels terrible to be paying a third party and effectively stealing the content.
Re:TV is broken by cdh on Saturday February 25, 2012 @12:31PM (#3633360)
On the other hand, they could easily provide paid service internationally but choose not to.

It's disingenuous enough when the word 'stealing' is re-purposed in discussions about copyright infringement, since it is very doubtful that every copy of a shared file resulted in an actual loss.

In this case, though, it seems easy enough to establish that the BBC has provided no way to compensate them for viewing their content from the United States. You might be "stealing" bandwidth in some sense, but I don't think it's fair to characterize the content as stolen in this case. The third party (VPN/proxy provider) is paid for network access just like you pay an ISP, not for the content itself.

Re:TV is broken by DanI-S on Saturday February 25, 2012 @01:20PM (#3633471)
"On the other hand, they could easily provide paid service internationally but choose not to."

I doubt it's easy, but they've been working on it for a while now and it should be available fairly soon.

I agree that it may not be fair to characterise the content as 'stolen'; I chose to use that term out of laziness. However, it's definitely not fair to consume the content without paying, either. It increases the financial burden on the UK license payer. Many of the BBC's shows are available to a US audience - you just have to buy them on Amazon, or stream them on Netflix.

Re:TV is broken by DanBC on Saturday February 25, 2012 @01:27PM (#3633484)
This highlights some oddities of the UK TV licensing system. I can listen to BBC radio all day every day; I can use the BBC websites all day every day; I can watch BBC TV programmes on their iPlayer service (so long as the programmes are "catch-up" and not streamed live) and I do not need a licence.

I only need a licence if I watch tv broadcast live. Everything is defined in law; the devices used to receive (which include smart phones and computers) and the signals (which weirdly include for example French telly received via satellite). A person could hate the BBC and all its output and never watch it but still need to pay the licence fee.

Personally, I welcome the BBC but the enforcement of the licence has been sub-optimal in the past.

Re:TV is broken by epscylonb on Saturday February 25, 2012 @02:08PM (#3633578)
Anachronistic is the word you are looking for.

The licence fee made perfect sense when it was created, it arguably has been unfair to consumers since VHS became popular.

Re:TV is broken by cjrp on Saturday February 25, 2012 @05:15AM (#3632646)
iPad only, but I guess it's a start: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14322604
Re:TV is broken by ludwigvan on Saturday February 25, 2012 @05:16PM (#3634008)
Or you could buy a vps in UK (e.g. Linode London) and proxy through it.