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Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:18AM (#36310582)
Nobody is forgoing the Bill of Rights. Courts have determined that it is compatible with the Bill of Rights.
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by flerchin on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:33AM (#36310772)
That's an evolving situation, and a plain reading of the 4th amendment makes this whole process look not compatible.
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by cheeseomlit on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:35AM (#36310809)
Then the courts are wrong, as they often are when it comes to constitutionality. Domestic dragnet surveillance is a very obvious violation of the 4th amendment.
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:38AM (#36310869)
Id be interested in why courts believe that it is not. Is it because it's at the level of signals rather than correlated to people?
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by cheeseomlit on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:56AM (#36311164)
Multiple revelations including Snowdens reveal that the data is not uncorrelated/anonymous, if it were I'd imagine it'd be of little use for intelligence purposes. Maybe I am too dismissive/cynical but I don't put much stock in what the courts decide or why on issues like this, they're all under somebody's thumb from what I can tell. They're the same folks that brought us such hits as "corporations are people and money is speech", call me crazy but I don't think they're making their decisions based on high-minded constitutional principles
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by janalsncm on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @02:47PM (#36314941)
In what sense are they “wrong”? You don’t agree with them. But theirs is the final word on the matter until a new court or new law comes around. The interpretation of the Bill of Rights has varied greatly over the last 250 years even though the words have stayed the same. The law isn’t based on our ideas of what it is, the law is based on what is enforced.
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by uoaei on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:33AM (#36310776)
Legality has nothing to do with any notion of "should".