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Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by dahwolf on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:48PM (#36302438)
The problem of the idea "updated for a modern audience" is that the updates do not cater to the actual audience, instead a minority of motivated activists that seem to thrive in finding offense and extrapolating it.

It's dysfunctional toxic behavior packaged as doing good.

Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by mikrotikker on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:32PM (#36302935)
I wonder if its cultural revisionism along the lines of some of those pulled down statues. They don't want people to know how bad it was, so they can't compare it to how good it is now, so they think no progress has been made, thus making more activists.
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by dahwolf on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:51PM (#36303103)
Recently, some university in the US came with yet another "inclusive language" update that was widely ridiculed for it tried to replace neutral and even positive words and expressions. Language vandalism.

I've seen a theory as to where this is coming from. The particular university, as do many universities, have an inflated administration where some even have more staff than students. A significant part of that staff is DEI and pretty much everybody is to commit to this agenda.

So, you have a huge amount of people that continuously need to show evidence that they're committed to the cause. What would be the easiest thing to do?

You type in a bunch of bullshit in Word, because that's far easier than working in a soup kitchen. Actually improving the world is hard so instead you do this easy thing that provides the optics, and nothing more. You don't even need to believe it, it's largely driven by fear.

It's like an engine that can't be stopped.

Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by aintgonnatakeit on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:01PM (#36303196)
You can say Stanford. It’s ok.
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by richbell on Monday June 12, 2023 @10:03PM (#36304191)
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by nerdponx on Monday June 12, 2023 @11:29PM (#36304816)
Several of the pulled-down statues were excellent candidates for being pulled down. Of all the examples of cultural revisionism to get upset over, that's not a very good one.
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by thaneross on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:49AM (#36306007)
Why should a small group of activists get to decide for everybody which statues are allowed to stand?
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by Gud on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @02:03AM (#36306109)
Indeed. Have a popular vote.
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by eesmith on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:18AM (#36307628)
For the same reason we often let a small group of activists decide which statues to erect in the first place?
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by tweetle_beetle on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:57PM (#36314014)
Many changes which I'd expect are commonly understood to be positive for society started with a small group of activists. Movements start small and public opinion doesn't change overnight. Sometimes public opinion needs a nudge from a small noteworthy action.

Had you ever discussed applying democratic values to the evaluation of the suitability of historical public statues spontaneously, before these actions made the news?

Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by nunuvit on Monday June 12, 2023 @11:44PM (#36304942)
I've never heard a revisionist argument for taking down a statue. Which one(s) are you referring to?
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by mikrotikker on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @03:44AM (#36306910)
The one with Abe breaking the chains of a slave and rising from his knees is the one I was thinking of when I wrote this. I'm not sure what its called I don't live in the USA
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by GauntletWizard on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @04:06AM (#36307097)
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by nunuvit on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @07:35AM (#36308651)
I'm familiar with the statue and the criticisms, and I don't know of any revisionist arguments against it. Which of their reasons is revisionist?

Sibling comment links to the Wikipedia article, which links to a news article, in case you need a refresher.

Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by mikrotikker on Sunday June 18, 2023 @06:38AM (#36378974)
There were calls for it to be pulled down. IMO that is revisionist for the reasons I already outlined.
Re:21st-century editors should keep their hands off of 20th-... by sigseg-v on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @03:12AM (#36306661)
Literally 1984