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Re:Tesla’s Autopilot involved in far more crashes than previ... by oldgradstudent on Sunday June 11, 2023 @05:36PM (#36285980)
The real number may be far higher.

Somebody bothered to make website to track Tesla deaths and Tesla Autopilot related deaths.

https://www.tesladeaths.com/

Current count is 33 for Autopilot related deaths.

Last time I cross references incidents it was accurate, but that was a while ago.

Re:Tesla’s Autopilot involved in far more crashes than previ... by ETH_start on Sunday June 11, 2023 @09:30PM (#36287503)
For reference there are over forty thousand automobile related deaths in the US every year.
Re:Tesla’s Autopilot involved in far more crashes than previ... by Grimblewald on Sunday June 11, 2023 @10:56PM (#36287948)
It would be interesting to see what the rate of car accidents per car make and model are.
Re:Tesla’s Autopilot involved in far more crashes than previ... by Uzza on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:17AM (#36292244)
It is very important to note that that website has a clear bias against Tesla by its very nature, it's trying to pain Teslas as death machines. I've never heard of any page like this for any other manufacturer.

Case in point, Case 312.1 is a pickup truck that ran a red light at an intersection and hit the Tesla, killing its driver, according to the archived new report. The stats on that page shows it as death in "TSLA+cycl / peds" column, even though there were no vulnerable road users involved.

Any reasonable individual would see that this has zero fault on the Tesla, but since it involves a Tesla and a death, it's included.

Involved in an accident does not mean the Tesla is at fault.

Re:Tesla’s Autopilot involved in far more crashes than previ... by oldgradstudent on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:44AM (#36292530)
The website states very clearly, in bold, at the very top:

> Tesla Deaths is a record of Tesla accidents that involved a driver, occupant, cyclist, motorcyclist, or pedestrian death, whether or not the Tesla or its driver were at fault

The FAQ contains the reasoning behind that, which is very simple:

> Q: Why do you include deaths where the Tesla was not at fault?

> NHTSA death statistics cited by Elon Musk do not differentiate between at-fault and not-at-fault. All manufacturers are treated the same way. For the purposes of calculating Tesla fatalities in accordance with NHTSA methodology, we also do not include the many deaths in other vehicles, despite Teslas being at fault in the majority of those cases.

Note that since this is only based on press reports, this is a lower bound on the number of deaths. Probably by a signinficant margin.