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Re:Robot can rip the data out of RAM chips with chilling tech by fbdab103 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @02:17PM (#36284033)
I do not think that holds up today. While there do still exist a wide variety of unsecured vectors, those are closing rapidly. Look at any of the closed hardware platforms (Xbox, Playstation, iPhone, TPM, etc). People with strong desires to exfiltrate data are stymied.
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Re:Robot can rip the data out of RAM chips with chilling tech by iudqnolq on Sunday June 11, 2023 @03:47PM (#36284903)
It's not that simple. Everything, even secure hardware, can have bugs. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/14/azimuth...
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Re:Robot can rip the data out of RAM chips with chilling tech by HWR_14 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @05:02PM (#36285638)
While people with strong desires are stymied, I wouldn't trust any of those systems against a motivated nation-state.
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Re:Robot can rip the data out of RAM chips with chilling tech by fbdab103 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @08:41PM (#36287250)
While nothing is perfect, newer security models do have strong theoretical security guarantees (barring implementation problems). Significantly strong enough that it will certainly stop random guy-who-is-good-with-computers. Which is the actual threat model for 99.99% of the population. Nation states have significantly more and different attack options available (eg unencrypted cloud backups, rubber stamped warrants, and old-fashioned rubber-hose attacks).
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Re:Robot can rip the data out of RAM chips with chilling tech by JohnFen on Monday June 12, 2023 @11:09AM (#36294917)
It totally holds up today. The difference is that modern security measures make it much more expensive to do.

The "natural law of security" -- If you can access it legally, you can access it illegally -- remains true.

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