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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by fullspectrumdev on Saturday June 10, 2023 @04:25PM (#36274735)
> US supported Maidan coup.

What a load of bollocks.

The Ukrainian people made a choice to topple their corrupt government and take control of their countries destiny. Which is an inalienable right.

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by lenkite on Saturday June 10, 2023 @07:33PM (#36276434)
Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders.

She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well - gleefully cheering on when Gadaffi and his grandsons were killed one by one by NATO forces.

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by _kbh_ on Saturday June 10, 2023 @10:57PM (#36277551)
> Yeah, with a truckload of support and sponsorship from Victoria Nuland - the shining [Coup Lady] of the US state department - who also picked the post coup leaders.

You got any evidence of this that doesn’t stink of Russian propaganda?.

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by hackandthink on Sunday June 11, 2023 @12:57AM (#36278234)
This is about Nuland's interference:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-di...

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by CamperBob2 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @02:59AM (#36278926)
My favorite part was when Victoria Nuland poisoned Yuschenko with dioxin and turned him into an orange version of the Yellow Bastard from Sin City, years before orange skin became en vogue in American political circles. Also, there was that time when Nuland went on a hunting "vacation" in Donbas and bagged a Boeing, then hotfooted it across the Russian border with an innocent twinkle in her eye. And don't forget the time Nuland massacred dozens of protesters who objected to Yanukovych placing loyalty to Moscow over loyalty to his own country.

That lady gets around.

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by hackandthink on Sunday June 11, 2023 @10:41AM (#36281859)
Yes, it's a game.

Who has the nastiest trick? Who liquidates more people? Who overthrows more regimes? ...

sometimes Russia wins, sometimes the US wins

I do not know much about Mrs. Nuland and do not care about her. But she seems to be a good player:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by lisasays on Sunday June 11, 2023 @11:38PM (#36288186)
She wasn't just involved in Ukraine. Was involved in Libya as well

Your basic problem here is that you're confusing "trying to get involved" with "actually being involved and affecting events in a significant way".

In short, the idea that Nuland's shenanigans did anything to move the needle on the ground is utter BS -- fodder for leftwing opinion websites in some Western countries, but not something that anybody in Ukraine takes seriously.

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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by FreshStart on Sunday June 18, 2023 @03:10AM (#36378017)
All those "coups" were directly followed by elections, elections even the donbas participated and was thus represented in Ukraine assembly, until Russia waltzed on. And all the western civilization mimicry will not undo what happened on the ground. Russia is as shameless a imperial power in its day to day, as the US was at its darkest hours (Vietnam, Iraq)
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