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Re:The Accidental HFT Firm by polygamous_bat on Saturday June 10, 2023 @01:36PM (#36272680)
> What if you're in the northern hemisphere and want to buy strawberries in December? Or you want a pint of milk, but your local dairy only sells it by the tanker?

You do understand how that's different from HFT, right? That's more of a market making job. HFT is like hiring The Flash to be your grocery store clerk, who notices you reaching for the milk, and runs in to empty out the shelf and raise the price by 0.003 cents by the time your hand gets there.

Re:The Accidental HFT Firm by growse on Saturday June 10, 2023 @01:48PM (#36272821)
> You do understand how that's different from HFT, right?

HFTs provide liquidity, which by definition is providing what people want to buy/sell, when they want to trade it and it the desired quantity.

> HFT is like hiring The Flash to be your grocery store clerk, who notices you reaching for the milk, and runs in to empty out the shelf and raise the price by 0.003 cents by the time your hand gets there.

This is not what HFTs do. They can't see your "hand reaching", they see your quote hit the book at the same time as everyone else. It's not magic.

They're literally the market makers. Your complaint appears to be that they're good at reacting to new information, i.e. being good market makers.

Re:The Accidental HFT Firm by HDThoreaun on Saturday June 10, 2023 @02:08PM (#36273098)
> they see your quote hit the book at the same time as everyone else. It's not magic.

Every exchange gives "good standing market participants" aka HFT market makers first dibs on orders. If a gallon of milk goes on sale and I'm waiting in line with a market maker I will never make the sale, it'll go the the HFT firm every time.

Re:The Accidental HFT Firm by growse on Sunday June 11, 2023 @02:41AM (#36278814)
Care to link to a major equity exchange's product page and/or sec declaration that details exactly how this works (ie, criteria for getting "first dibs", what that actually means etc)?

Or are you talking about exchange hosting, where you get lower latency if you pay more to colocate?

Re:The Accidental HFT Firm by dahfizz on Saturday June 10, 2023 @05:15PM (#36275179)
That's not how it works. They can't "see you reaching for the milk".