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Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:12PM (#36262637)
> So spez acknowledged in the call that it wasn't a threat

its regular bs sugar coating, like you know someone is cheating, and he knows he is cheating but doesn't admit, but you don't have proof and you say "oh it was miscommunication" for the sake of continuing cooperation.

Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by Timon3 on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:15PM (#36262677)
Why do you think this is the case? The audio by the Apollo dev doesn't support this, and spez has not published anything that would prove there was a threat. The audio doesn't sound like what you're describing, it sounds like what the Apollo dev is describing.
Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:17PM (#36262712)
> The audio by the Apollo dev doesn't support this

looks like we are in disagreement about this part.

Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by Timon3 on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:28PM (#36262888)
I'll quote directly from the audio (https://christianselig.com/apollo-end/reddit-third-call-may-... starting around 2:18):

> Apollo dev: How did you take that, sorry? Could you elaborate?

> spez: Oh, like, cause you were like "hey, if you want this, if you want this to go away, like [unintelligeble]..."

> Apollo dev: Oh, I said if you want Apollo to go quiet, like I would say it's quite loud in terms of its API use..."

> spez: Oh, okay, got it. Got it, sorry. That's a complete misinterpretation on my part. I apologize immediately [...]

Would you expect spez to still consider it a threat given both the literal content of what he says, and the tone it was said in? I see no way your interpretation makes sense.

Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:30PM (#36262908)
I read this very carefully several times, and there is context which you decided not to quote, what is your point?

Update on your updated comment: > and the tone it was said in? I see no way your interpretation makes sense.

Looks like we are again in disagreement about this.

Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by Timon3 on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:37PM (#36263010)
Could you explicitly state the context you believe I decided not to quote? Timestamps are enough.
Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:38PM (#36263029)
context was "joke" about $10m to go quiet.
Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by Timon3 on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:39PM (#36263052)
So the part that spez was talking about misunderstanding, which he apologized for? The context you think I didn't include is the thing that spez is explicitly saying he didn't understand correctly?
Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:42PM (#36263096)
> The context you think I didn't include is the thing that spez is explicitly saying he didn't understand correctly?

sorry, this doesn't make sense to me.

Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by Timon3 on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:44PM (#36263124)
I quoted spez apologizing for misunderstanding something. You're saying I left that something out as context. Considering spez acknowledged his misunderstanding and apologized, it seems a bit ridiculous to expect the something he apologized for to "override" his apology, doesn't it?
Re:Addressing the community about changes to our API by riku_iki on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:46PM (#36263147)
> Considering spez acknowledged his misunderstanding and apologized, it seems a bit ridiculous

I answered this already, it could be sugarcoating. Sorry, this discussion is low quality to my taste and I have no interest in continuing. Good bye.