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Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by ryandrake on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:09AM (#36258984)
I'd be OK with a system that gave researchers access to my medical history only if they obtained actual, informed, and un-coerced consent. No "In order to use this medical service you must consent...", no "Please click Agree on this 38-page terms of service (which also sneakily agrees to consent)". No "I provide consent to each and every so-called researcher who wants access to my health history."

An actual written request for consent from a research institution, telling me exactly what data they intend to access, how they will access it, how many people will have access, for how long, and what they will do with the data / results after they are done. One that I can at my option sign and send back, or trash.

I'd in all likelihood say yes! But as a patient, I deserve the right to say yes or no. "Lives might be lost" is simply not justification for obtaining it.

This doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. It balances the need for research with the patient's need for privacy.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by genocidicbunny on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:22AM (#36259207)
> how many people will have access, for how long

And more importantly, _who_ the people are. Yeah, I want full legal names. I want someone to name in a lawsuit if things go wrong or my data is leaked. I want personal legal culpability from everyone interacting with that data.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by ryandrake on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:28AM (#36259285)
I mean, I’d be for this but I was trying to meet OP half way. CONSENT. That’s all that we are asking for.
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by genocidicbunny on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:33AM (#36259375)
> but I was trying to meet OP half way.

I'm not. Getting pretty tired of having the meeting point of getting buttfucked and not buttfucked being buttfucked, but with lube.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by danaris on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:50AM (#36259674)
"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man.

You step forward.

He steps back.

"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by JohnFen on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:27AM (#36259276)
Yes, I agree entirely. If it's been coerced in any way, or if any aspect is not fully disclosed in a way that I can understand, then it is not "informed consent".
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by CaptainZapp on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:47PM (#36260529)
Whenever I used medical services in the past and filled a form with a question if my data "could be used for research in anonymous form" I answered: Yeah, sure!

Thanks to the likes of Facebook, Google and their ilk starting to stick their filthy paws into the most private medical data some years ago my answer now is always a resounding HELL, NO!

I always feel bad about it, because it really shouldn't be that way, but thanks to the slimy shenanigans of the tech brothership I just don't see a viable alternative to that answer.

What bugs me is my urge to explain to the poor admin to who I'm handing the form the why this is out of the question.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by JohnFen on Friday June 09, 2023 @01:15PM (#36260912)
> Thanks to the likes of Facebook, Google and their ilk starting to stick their filthy paws into the most private medical data some years ago my answer now is always a resounding HELL, NO!

I made the exact same change in my behavior as well. I already felt that I was making a sacrifice by exposing my data to the likes of drug companies and such. Exposing my data to the likes of a FAANG-style company is simply a nonstarter.