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Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by genocidicbunny on Friday June 09, 2023 @10:42AM (#36258570)
Give me a surefire, 100% guarantee that my data won't be misused against me or anyone else, under severe penalty to you personally if your guarantee fails. Then we can talk.
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by scarby2 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:00AM (#36258842)
i cant give you that guarantee today. I can't guarantee the government or your healthcare provider isn't misusing your data.

In fact a surefire guarantee essentially doesn't exist. But what exactly are you afraid of? How does someone weaponize your information? Everyone in my life already knows about my health conditions, i speak openly about them in my personal life, my business life and online there have been zero consequences to this.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by michaelmior on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:05AM (#36258922)
> i speak openly about them in my personal life, my business life and online there have been zero consequences to this.

Not everyone is comfortable speaking openly about their health issues and not everyone is in a situation where they will be free from consequences if they do.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by phyllistine on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:35AM (#36259408)
> How does someone weaponize your information? Increase your health insurance prices based on more detailed knowledge of conditions? Deny you health insurance entirely?
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by genocidicbunny on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:11AM (#36259014)
> i cant give you that guarantee today.

Well that's really the point, ain't it. You can't even meet the bare frakking minimum for this to be workable.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by krisoft on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:19AM (#36259148)
> How does someone weaponize your information?

Like throws you in prison because you were pregnant and now you are not, and the state concludes you must have had an abortion which just recently become illegal where you live?

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by flangola7 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:46AM (#36259609)
Or ever received transgender care. Does this person ever read the news!?
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by rakoo on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:37AM (#36259434)
> How does someone weaponize your information

Show baby diapers ads because Google knows I'm pregnant. Increase the price of baby furnitures because Amazon knows I'm pregnant. Decline a job interview because LinkedIn knows I'm alcoholic. Tell me what parties I might be interested in because Facebook knows I have cancer. Refuse a ride because Uber knows I'm not vaccinated.

None of this situations is far fetched, and none of those situations is something positive.

Companies only care about profits, not the betterment of society as you seem to believe. I am very happy there is no way for them to know more than they need about my private life.

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because those laws were in place. Do you believe companies have been behaving nicely because they care about you ?

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by VancouverMan on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:52PM (#36260608)
> Refuse a ride because Uber knows I'm not vaccinated.

> None of this situations is far fetched, and none of those situations is something positive.

Not only is that type of a situation not far fetched, it was the reality throughout Canada as recently as 2021 and 2022.

"Also effective October 30, travellers departing from Canadian airports, and travellers on VIA Rail and Rocky Mountaineer trains, will be required to be fully vaccinated in order to travel."

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2021/10/manda...

Given Canada's large geographic area, access to domestic air and rail travel is extremely important.

That type of unjustifiable discrimination also applied to other services/venues/events, too, such as restaurants.

What's even more nonsensical is how those policies remained in place even when it was blatantly obvious that the so-called "vaccines" involved didn't seem to prevent infection and didn't seem to prevent transmission, even among the so-called "fully vaccinated".

The very negative social and economic consequences of those awful policies far outweighed the non-existent "benefits".

If some good did come out of this, it's that at least a larger segment of the Canadian population realizes the importance of privacy, especially of medical records.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by phkahler on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:04AM (#36258915)
>> I can't guarantee the government or your healthcare provider isn't misusing your data.

But at least there is a law against it. Loosening the rules would certainly lead to misuse - use against the patient.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by malfist on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:46AM (#36259608)
> How does someone weaponize your information

Fire you if you've had an abortion?

Fire you if you've had gender affirmation surgery?

Refuse to hire you if you've been treated for addiction?

What if you're a public figure?

Press announces you've had cosmetic surgery.

Press announces you had an anal fissure treated.

Press tells everyone you have an STI, or your children have an STI

There are a lot of ways to weaponize medical information.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by comte7092 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:53AM (#36259727)
>Everyone in my life already knows about my health conditions, i speak openly about them in my personal life, my business life and online there have been zero consequences to this.

“It doesn’t matter to me therefore it shouldn’t matter to anyone else. My experience is universal and correct.”

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by Thrymr on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:56AM (#36259777)
If you really can't imagine a way that someone might weaponize detailed health information, you have no business suggesting how laws should be changed around the matter.
Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by EatingWithForks on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:14PM (#36260050)
> How does someone weaponize your information?

This is so easy to recognize that I have to wonder if you've ever met a less-privileged person than yourself.

1. A fully functioning, treatment-compliant schizophrenic is now at risk of being passed up for jobs or promotions because their medical history is up to be bought by employers.

2. A local concerned citizen will be much more afraid of protesting or publicly being against a politician if the politician can buy their history of getting PreP, an HIV preventative drug that is popular in the homosexual community.

3. A religious private school starts to buy the medical history of their young girls, and reveal which girls are taking birth control, had had an abortion, etc. by expulsing them from the school.

Or simply put: You first. Put up your hemorrhoid surgery photos up on your LinkedIn.

Re:Do No Harm petition: Don't give Big Tech access to our me... by denton-scratch on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:52PM (#36260590)
> How does someone weaponize your information?

I guess you're not an alcoholic? That's information that potential employers would be glad to pay for. In the days of paper records, doctors would write "C2H4OH" on your record, as a semi-coded message to other doctors.

Estimates vary, but I understand that close to 25% of the UK population is alcohol-dependent to some degree. Deterring people from seeking treatment seems "unhelpful" from the POV of general social benefit.