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Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by lb1lf on Friday June 09, 2023 @10:04AM (#36257977)
In a similar vein, John Kraus (Of Antennas... textbook fame) described a gravitational transmitting and receiving system as a fun (?) diversion near the end of the book.

It has been a few years, but I seem to recall that the transmitter was a 500T steel bar spun at very close to the maximum RPM the tensile strength of steel allowed; the radiated energy was something like a fraction of an attowatt. (An attowatt = 1*10^-18W)

There are more efficient transmitting schemes out there.

Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by bee_rider on Friday June 09, 2023 @10:22AM (#36258226)
It is kind of wild that we stumbled upon transmitting information via electromagnetic waves so early on. They seem to be hard to beat.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by thx-2718 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:11AM (#36259007)
Fortunately for us we can see them.

Gravity waves are much harder to observe.

Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by BurningFrog on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:26PM (#36262844)
You can also argue that we can see them because they are stronger and are evolutionary important.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by mrkstu on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:19PM (#36264293)
Well, I'd call the inner ear an evolutionary response to gravity...
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by db48x on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:11AM (#36259013)
Not unexpected; electromagnetism is 40 orders of magnitude stronger than gravity!
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by jjk166 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:15AM (#36259086)
It makes sense that the easiest to implement would also be the easiest to learn. It's more shocking just how much harder every other option is.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by comboy on Friday June 09, 2023 @03:36PM (#36262992)
What other options are there apart from mentioned gravity? I mean there are waves in materials like sound but that seem to be easier than EM.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by alach11 on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:39PM (#36264518)
Neutrinos, perhaps.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by comboy on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:33PM (#36265790)
Ah, right, that's indeed high on the difficulty chart.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by dekhn on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:46PM (#36260512)
it doesn't seem surprising to me. people were in the lab playing with DC and AC and clearly heard "clicks" from remote instruments that correlated with them turning switches on and off.
Re:Freeman Dyson: Gravitational Machines by agmm on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:17AM (#36259108)
I became curious about this and went to the book to learn more. The system proposed in the book is capable of radiating around 2.2 x 10^-29 W by rotating a bar weighing 500 tonnes about 270 times per minute.

[1] Source: Kraus, J. D. (1988). Antennas (2nd ed., p. 769). Retrieved from https://ia802907.us.archive.org/8/items/KrausAntennas19882ed...