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Re:Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision P... by ethbr0 on Friday June 09, 2023 @09:37AM (#36257637)
There's a difference between "infinite percent better" (because it was non-existent before) and "some percent better."

The fitness use case is a red herring and a software problem. Instilling motivation in people to do things they know are good but don't want to isn't traditionally a money-maker. You're building a better shame-er: how's Peloton doing these days? https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PTON/financials?p=PTON (and that is "fundamentally different"!)

The iPhone as initially released isn't the iPhone brand success we see today, looking back: that's the iPhone + iTunes + App Store.

Which explains why similarly featured hardware didn't experience iPhone success.

That combination was fundamentally different, because it allowed you to easily do the 3 things most people wanted to on their phones (browse the web, listen to music, get a specific app).

At the time, 2008, there was no competition for that.

It would be until ~2010 that Android even launched rough (very rough) parity: HTC Nexus One/Samsung Galaxy S + Google Music + Android Marketplace

Two. Years.

Re:Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision P... by curiousllama on Friday June 09, 2023 @10:02AM (#36257951)
I’m gonna be honest, I just sincerely have no idea what you mean by “fundamentally different.”

Like, Peloton is an exercise bike. A cool one! A great brand and experience! But it’s an exercise bike.

And it’s somehow more “fundamentally different” than this device that is trying to materialize sci fi?

I guess I just don’t get it

Re:Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision P... by ethbr0 on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:01AM (#36258848)
I'd say Peloton is as fundamentally different... as you can get within the fitness category. Absolutely agreed: its an exercise bike with adjustable resistance and integrated, network-connected stats. In objective terms, not fundamentally different.

But if even it's having trouble financially, fitness isn't a great category to win with technology. Branding and advertising, absolutely! (Nike?) But not tech.

Re:Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision P... by mrguyorama on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:17AM (#36259115)
Beat saber is not fundamentally different from DDR. I love both.