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Re:How to Clear 500k Feral Cats from New York’s Streets by romwell on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:48AM (#36243903)
I'm sorry, but you seem to be ignorant of the facts.

I have provided extensive references for everything I said. Please read them before typing out your gut response.

While cats, in general, are a threat to birds, these particular cats were not a threat to these particular birds.

Re:How to Clear 500k Feral Cats from New York’s Streets by rcpt on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:07PM (#36244193)
You seriously need a citation to believe that cats kill birds? How the hell do you think they existed for the past million years? jfc

Anyway, here you go (from Nature, not mv-voice) https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

> free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3–4.0 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals annually. Un-owned cats, as opposed to owned pets, cause the majority of this mortality. Our findings suggest that free-ranging cats cause substantially greater wildlife mortality than previously thought and are likely the single greatest source of anthropogenic mortality for US birds and mammals

Re:How to Clear 500k Feral Cats from New York’s Streets by romwell on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:54PM (#36246810)
I repeat my request to actually read the words that I wrote, along with the references, and respond to that instead of the emotions you're feeling.

Please read these points carefully:

1. While cats, in general, are a threat to birds, the cats managed by the TNR program on Google Campus were not a threat to burrowing owls in the Shoreline park;

2. Shutdown of the TNR program resulted in the increase of the feral cat population, and had no positive impact on the owls;

3. The primary threat to the burrowing owls is human interference and destruction of habitat. These birds are not particularly threatened by stray cats in the first place.

4. Saying that the general statement applies to a particular case without looking at the facts is a fallacy.

TL;DR: "cats are a threat to birds" doesn't imply that my house cat in the US is a threat to kiwis in New Zealand.

Re:How to Clear 500k Feral Cats from New York’s Streets by rcpt on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:50PM (#36250344)
This is a discussion about NYC. I don't know why you're focused on Mountain View.

Do you think that you can somehow generalize from that to NYC?