Re:How Many Sensors for Autonomous Driving?
by jvm___ on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:19PM
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Isn't that how Waymo killed a pedestrian/cyclist? It couldn't decide if she was a cyclist or pedestrian, as she was walking and pushing her bicycle, so it never braked.
She was homeless so the shape of her bike wasn't a proper bike so it got confused.
Re:How Many Sensors for Autonomous Driving?
by magicalist on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:01PM
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Uber, and it probably could have braked but the emergency braking was purposefully disabled.
Re:How Many Sensors for Autonomous Driving?
by dbcurtis on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:21PM
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Yes, Uber, operating in Level 3, and safety driver was watching a movie on phone at the time.
Very different circumstances. I don’t think this was a classifier defect. Not that I was ever a fan of Uber’s development program, but in this case I can’t fault the platform.
Yeah, that kind of agent prediction is a biggie. Agent prediction is something journalists don't talk about much, but is a huge research topic for AV practitioners.
And since you make note of expected behavior of objects... my all-time favorite bug report out of Waymo (that made the public news) is a classic classifier/predictor/planner corner case leading to deadlock. Classifier identified a cyclist and labeled as "stopped" if cyclist has foot on the ground, and "moving" if both feet on pedals. Predictor would plot a trajectory for moving cyclist, planner decides action based on predicted agent behavior. So... Waymo vehicle and cyclist on two corners of 4-way stop. Cyclist is stopped, doing a perfectly balanced track stand with both feet clipped in. Feet on pedals so cyclist is labeled as moving agent... planner yields right-of-way to cyclist according to rules-of-the-road. Deadlock -- nobody moves.