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Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by jredwards on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @05:02PM (#36219066)
This reminds me of the "Liar, Lunatic, or Lord" argument that religious people use regarding Jesus. Let's not railroad the options, here. There's room for nuance (like combinations or, frankly, just misunderstandings).
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by spywaregorilla on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:22PM (#36219885)
what kind of nuanced compromise exists that does not paint jesus as a liar, lunatic, or lord exclusively?
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by jredwards on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:51PM (#36220185)
That he believed a falsehood? Does that make him a lunatic? Would that not necessarily make billions of people lunatics?
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by prawn on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:44PM (#36221728)
That he was misrepresented?
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by spywaregorilla on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:52PM (#36236960)
I do think believing that you are a deity is a sufficiently far fetched falsehood to justify calling you a lunatic. For the sake of argument I suppose I'm willing to accept "profoundly confused individual" as a fourth alternative. But I don't think it helps the rhetorical point against painting arguments for "lord lunatic or liar" as an unjustified demand for absolute beliefs.

And no, you're not a lunatic for believing someone else's bullshit.

Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by TechBro8615 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:58PM (#36222659)
That's a convenient argument and a good analogy for the UFO phenomenon, because it omits the fourth option, which is that Jesus never existed outside of a carefully constructed narrative distributed by institutional authorities with the goal of manipulating their taxpaying population.