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Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by tayo42 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:38PM (#36216354)
do a lot of people even want more social media and internet communities? i wasted an embarrassing amount of time on reddit in hind sight. this all reminds me of when i finally burnt out on wow. i quit, sold my account (at the end of wotlk, i think wow declined after that too?) and didn't play video games for years after. personally i feel the same way about reddit, do i really want this all again in my life? idk, im not searching for an alternative though.
Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by basch on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:47PM (#36216502)
A better way forward is to really take the design back to primitives.

Reddit/NH/Twitter/Youtube/Google all default to favoring freshness. I believe this design assumption to be a mistake.

A lot of what gets posted would be better served by some hybrid of a wiki+chatroom/forum. For example, Ill just pick a thread that gets posted every week. In the what else will I like subreddit, there is constantly a "post your best mindfuck movies". That kind of question and answer is best served by some kind of static wiki like page that allows voting on individual database entries. It is better served by someone bumping the topic, maybe creating a new chatroom for the day, having the best parts of the chat post to the forum, for archival and historical purposes. As new movies come out, they can be added to the list. Maybe filters exist that allow you to show the results only showing votes from the last year, to help rank newer entries against historical ones.

In a TV/Speaker/Hometheater subreddit, constantly "what's best" belongs in the wiki. But the wiki is some singular document fairly separate from the discussion pages. Wiki page components dont rearrange by voting. The wiki is fairly well hidden in the interface.

When some kind of funny video gets reposted, it shouldnt start a new conversation. The comments page needs a better design to combine/isolate old comments, with today's discussion.

tldr: reddit, like a lot of social media, has a deduplication problem, that they choose to ignore in favor of focusing on "engagement" where engagement is just repetition and regurgitation. social media needs to rediscover bumping instead of reposting.

Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by rprospero on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:22PM (#36217013)
My experience with php style forums has been that the communities frown upon bumping and necroposting. Rediscovering and commenting on an old thread is usually met with profanity from the forum regulars. If bumping creates a better social media experience, why is it condemned instead of commended?
Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by bluGill on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:31PM (#36217135)
Most social media has no concept of I already read this. When I read something with a bunch of comments and come back latter there isn't a good way to skip past the things I've already see to what is new (and of course go back if I don't remember the context). Because of this I don't want you to bump something old - I read it way back, and I no longer even have an idea of where I last read...
Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by basch on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @12:11AM (#36222721)
Traditional forms are linear. I’m describing something more branching, where a bump starts a new branch off a trunk, but still nested under the original post.
Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by basch on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:33AM (#36226592)
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Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by goplayoutside on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:01PM (#36216710)
You might like kbin.social and/or aether.app, both of which offer different takes on the concept of federated link aggregators.
Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by tayo42 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:02PM (#36216713)
You're definitely on to something, I overtime stopped contributing to those questions because i was annoyed I just wrote a thoughtful answer recently no one cares about now.

But i think this misses the point. Like MMOs around WoW there was a lot of small games, eve, everquest, runescape, UO etc... Each had it own special thing and small community. Just like how forums and other small communities existed online. WoW came and just swallowed up everything and then some, introducing tons of new people to the genre. This is what Reddit did to forums. We could make a better Wow maybe, but nothing happened after wow in MMOs. WoW slowly died off in popularity and people moved on to new genres or left entirely leaving a new generation to disover their own games. I guess I expect this to happen to Reddit, a slow death from now on from bad decisions and boredom.

In 5 years someone will come along and make reddit classic, we'll poke around a bit and get a kick out of the nostalgia and forget about it again.

Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by bee_rider on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:56PM (#36216633)
These social networks are very addictive, you might start out with genuine interest but it becomes gamified social interactions pretty quickly. I bet you’ll go to a new site with the intention of commenting on a specific topic, but then get wrapped up commenting for points. That’s how I felt about Reddit at least, and realizing it is what made me quit.

I joined this site because I thought it would break that gamified social interaction loop by being tied to a particular topic. But actually, I’ve realized I speculate about my comment scores even here while making them. I think this one would have done well, it sort of begrudgingly admires Reddit while also saying negative things about it, and social media in general. People here like talk in the abstract about social media, I think because it plays into the hope that maybe we’re somehow outside it. This comment is also self-depreciating and, I think, fairly relatable (since I’m sure most of the commenters here have some history with using Reddit, and possibly quitting it). Of course, now that I’ve mentioned the points for this comment, it will almost certainly be downvoted to oblivion, because that’s like rule 0 of this game. Unless I can save it by being sufficiently meta, maybe…

Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:58PM (#36216670)
>do a lot of people even want more social media and internet communities?

Not necessarily more, but I feel like I haven't truly found a community I am comfortable with for the specific kinds of topics I want to talk about. Most are too small, and the big ones are arguably too big (i.e. it becomes a lot of noise and not a lot of conversation). On one end I get no more discussion than me sitting alone in my room. On the other end I inevitably fall into pace with the anger and feel worse off as a result.

Goldilocks issues, I suppose.

>do i really want this all again in my life?

If I could find suitable physical alternatives I'd never look back. But THAT search is even sadder and more embarrassing than a search for an internet community. I just accepted that making friends as an adult is extremely hard and you gotta rely on places you're forced to meetup at. i.e. Work.

Re:Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy ... by 1270018080 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:02PM (#36216720)
Yes, I want a reddit clone with a functioning website and app.